Originally posted by Spelljammer
I believe in all the aincent artifacts, the ark of the convenant, the holy grail....
There are many stories about where that "Ark" is....You think it would of turned up by now......and for the Holy grail...are you talking about the grail that Jesus drank out of or the one portrayed in the "Di Vinci Code?"
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I would just like to say that alot of these people are referring to this fictional artifact as something that actually yields real power (aside from that of having the ability to devalue the teachings of the catholic church). That being neither here nor there, the thing I would like to state is more an aphorism than anything else and that is that the major religions that are followed today have evolved from much more 'primitive forms', in a manner of speaking. All of the gods, goddesses, demons, angels, fairies, trolls, hobbits, dragons and all other supernatural beings who I will refer to quite loosely and generally as deities are nothing but man trying to cope with his surroundings in an often unpredictable and exceedingly dangerous existence. Concepts such as the devil probably result from rising belief systems stamping out localized early polytheistic religions which worshiped natural phenomena, common examples being animals such as a ram or a bull (common symbols of fertility). This should lead one to believe that various works about this so called 'devil' have been written over time and that demonetization of this early pagan god could be just an attempt by the early church to establish a strong hold over the masses through standardized belief systems. This of course relates to theories of the sacred female which I will neither support nor condemn although it seems to have logical basis excluding the specifics of the 'Da Vince code'.
What I mean is. Maybe Satan was not all that bad until god needed him to be so who is to say a book of Satan is unlikely to exist or whether it has anything to do with being evil. The bible is just a book, admittedly a good one in ways, with just as many sources as any other damn book.
Originally posted by Draculist
Has anyone found any info on the Bible of hell? I've been looking since before the movie Constantine came out.
Codex Gigas ("the Giant Book"😉, or the Devil's Bible, (89,5 x 49 cm, weighs 75 kg), contains the Old and New Testaments in pre-Vulgate Latin translations, Isidore of Seville's Etmologiae, Josephus' History of the Jews in a Latin translation, the Chronicle of Bohemia, written by Cosmas of Prague, etc. The manuscript was written in the early 13th century in the Benedictine monastery of Podlažice in Bohemia, the vellum used having been prepared from the skins of 160 asses. It is called the Devil's Bible after the impressive picture of that potentate on one of the folios (see picture). According to legend the scribe was a monk who had been confined to his cell for some breach of monastic discipline and who, by way of penance, finished the manuscript in one single night with the aid of the Devil, whom he had summoned to help him. In 1594 the manuscript was acquired by the Imperial Treasury in Prague. When the Swedish army conquered the city in 1648, it was brought to Sweden and presented to the Royal Library the following year, Where it has remained ever since.
Re: does hell also have a bible?
hey im just a young kid and latly i have started researching on hells bible and black, white and gray spell casting. any ways i still cant under standing one thing about hell is hell ment to be a internal jail that god created for the devil and wrong doer's to be locked away in or is it a place people to go if they hate god like a second chose for a place to go after death maby its both, i dont no how to explane what im trying to say so there is still a hell of a lot for me to lern on this topic.
Hell is not a real physical place...It's myth based...and there are polarities working in our universe, negative and possitive...so if your looking on trying to manipulate them....better watch out...cause from what I've read and heard, trying to manipulate some negatives will only come back on you 3 fold or more.
Originally posted by vampiricdaemon
People here keep talkin' bout the satanist bible. Well i was wonderin since the satanism is basiclly hell wouldnt their bible be considered hell's officail bible teaching satan's will of life and such? 🤨 🤨 🤨 🤨 🤨 🤨 🤨
There is some book that is said to be the book of hell. I think some person wrote it, and not Satan. BTW Satan does not exist.
The first Satanic Church is somewhere in Russia around the capitol i think, and yes there is a bible of hell, it instead of having all this informationalised changes probably has more in it than we might think, i have yet to attain a copy to read as well and they dont sell it in any bookstores that i know of (why would they?) and unless someone has already said this... It's not Christ flipped upside on on the Cross it is Saint Peter because that is the way he was crusified as he didn't want to have an equal death to Christ.
Hell doesn't have a Bible. The Bible is a collection of stories and teachings sent down by prophets to our generation. And Hell, as far as I know, is a part of the Christian gospel. It plays as much a part in life as God does, but it's always for the worse. Satan represents evil and temptation and Hell is his domain. That's all there is to it. I know there's a satanist bible or something like that, but that's not Hell's bible it's man's. It's a collection of what we want to hear. I hate to be so one-sided but I have very firm beliefs about this subject, and I stick to them.
There is a Satanic Bible actually.
The following is taken from www.churchofsatan.com.
The Nine Satanic Statements
from The Satanic Bible, ©1969
by Anton Szandor LaVey
1. Satan represents indulgence instead of abstinence!
2. Satan represents vital existence instead of spiritual pipe dreams!
3. Satan represents undefiled wisdom instead of hypocritical self-deceit!
4. Satan represents kindness to those who deserve it instead of love wasted on ingrates!
5. Satan represents vengeance instead of turning the other cheek!
6. Satan represents responsibility to the responsible instead of concern for psychic vampires!
7. Satan represents man as just another animal, sometimes better, more often worse than those that walk on all-fours, who, because of his “divine spiritual and intellectual development,” has become the most vicious animal of all!
8. Satan represents all of the so-called sins, as they all lead to physical, mental, or emotional gratification!
9. Satan has been the best friend the Church has ever had, as He has kept it in business all these years!
The Eleven Satanic Rules of the Earth
by Anton Szandor LaVey ©1967
1. Do not give opinions or advice unless you are asked.
2. Do not tell your troubles to others unless you are sure they want to hear them.
3. When in another’s lair, show him respect or else do not go there.
4. If a guest in your lair annoys you, treat him cruelly and without mercy.
5. Do not make sexual advances unless you are given the mating signal.
6. Do not take that which does not belong to you unless it is a burden to the other person and he cries out to be relieved.
7. Acknowledge the power of magic if you have employed it successfully to obtain your desires. If you deny the power of magic after having called upon it with success, you will lose all you have obtained.
8. Do not complain about anything to which you need not subject yourself.
9. Do not harm little children.
10. Do not kill non-human animals unless you are attacked or for your food.
11. When walking in open territory, bother no one. If someone bothers you, ask him to stop. If he does not stop, destroy him.
The Nine Satanic Sins
by Anton Szandor LaVey ©1987
1. Stupidity—The top of the list for Satanic Sins. The Cardinal Sin of Satanism. It’s too bad that stupidity isn’t painful. Ignorance is one thing, but our society thrives increasingly on stupidity. It depends on people going along with whatever they are told. The media promotes a cultivated stupidity as a posture that is not only acceptable but laudable. Satanists must learn to see through the tricks and cannot afford to be stupid.
2. Pretentiousness—Empty posturing can be most irritating and isn’t applying the cardinal rules of Lesser Magic. On equal footing with stupidity for what keeps the money in circulation these days. Everyone’s made to feel like a big shot, whether they can come up with the goods or not.
3. Solipsism—Can be very dangerous for Satanists. Projecting your reactions, responses and sensibilities onto someone who is probably far less attuned than you are. It is the mistake of expecting people to give you the same consideration, courtesy and respect that you naturally give them. They won’t. Instead, Satanists must strive to apply the dictum of “Do unto others as they do unto you.” It’s work for most of us and requires constant vigilance lest you slip into a comfortable illusion of everyone being like you. As has been said, certain utopias would be ideal in a nation of philosophers, but unfortunately (or perhaps fortunately, from a Machiavellian standpoint) we are far from that point.
4. Self-deceit—It’s in the “Nine Satanic Statements” but deserves to be repeated here. Another cardinal sin. We must not pay homage to any of the sacred cows presented to us, including the roles we are expected to play ourselves. The only time self-deceit should be entered into is when it’s fun, and with awareness. But then, it’s not self-deceit!
5. Herd Conformity—That’s obvious from a Satanic stance. It’s all right to conform to a person’s wishes, if it ultimately benefits you. But only fools follow along with the herd, letting an impersonal entity dictate to you. The key is to choose a master wisely instead of being enslaved by the whims of the many.
6. Lack of Perspective—Again, this one can lead to a lot of pain for a Satanist. You must never lose sight of who and what you are, and what a threat you can be, by your very existence. We are making history right now, every day. Always keep the wider historical and social picture in mind. That is an important key to both Lesser and Greater Magic. See the patterns and fit things together as you want the pieces to fall into place. Do not be swayed by herd constraints—know that you are working on another level entirely from the rest of the world.
7. Forgetfulness of Past Orthodoxies—Be aware that this is one of the keys to brainwashing people into accepting something new and different, when in reality it’s something that was once widely accepted but is now presented in a new package. We are expected to rave about the genius of the creator and forget the original. This makes for a disposable society.
8. Counterproductive Pride—That first word is important. Pride is great up to the point you begin to throw out the baby with the bathwater. The rule of Satanism is: if it works for you, great. When it stops working for you, when you’ve painted yourself into a corner and the only way out is to say, I’m sorry, I made a mistake, I wish we could compromise somehow, then do it.
9. Lack of Aesthetics—This is the physical application of the Balance Factor. Aesthetics is important in Lesser Magic and should be cultivated. It is obvious that no one can collect any money off classical standards of beauty and form most of the time so they are discouraged in a consumer society, but an eye for beauty, for balance, is an essential Satanic tool and must be applied for greatest magical effectiveness. It’s not what’s supposed to be pleasing—it’s what is. Aesthetics is a personal thing, reflective of one’s own nature, but there are universally pleasing and harmonious configurations that should not be denied.
Yes, but see, those are all based solely on natural human instinct. Like I said, it's the easy way out. It's telling us everything we want to hear and nothing we need to hear. There's no debate that the book exists, I'm just saying it's not like some ancient script from Hell speaking revelations to us. It was made by people so they didn't have to go through the trouble of actually following God. I realize I've probably offended you by now. In fact, I know I've offended you, but that's my opinion, self-righteous as it is. I'm sorry.
Originally posted by apoc001
Yes, but see, those are all based solely on natural human instinct. Like I said, it's the easy way out. It's telling us everything we want to hear and nothing we need to hear. There's no debate that the book exists, I'm just saying it's not like some ancient script from Hell speaking revelations to us. It was made by people so they didn't have to go through the trouble of actually following God. I realize I've probably offended you by now. In fact, I know I've offended you, but that's my opinion, self-righteous as it is. I'm sorry.
Ok I am a Chirstian, but I am going to answer this from an Athesis' point of view.
By all logic, the Bible is another work of fiction. The Satanic Bible is just another work of fiction. What you are asking for does not exist as far as the world is concerned, be it the Chistian Bible or Satanic Bible.
Also you have not offended me in any way at all. Really I am very rare kind of Chirstian.