Originally posted by stormfront13
if storm can make the sentinels become disfunctional beccasue of her lightning, then shouldn't she be able to do the same with docs suit??
yes. Its been shown many times that Doom's forcefield is NOT always up. The guy posted above that Storm already nailed Doom with her powers and it worked just fine. I don't know WHY it's not always up. It's just not. Not my fault.
storm definitley takes this I think. The docs force field isn't always up so she can hit him. she might be able to evade his attacks. Also doom has a big crush type thing for storm and when he had the cosmic cube he made her his wife, so he might hesitate to hit her. storms lightnng will short circuit his suit and if this happens then storm wins.
Storm doesn't take anything but a beating.
Why are we assuming that because Doom doesn't walk around hiding behind his forcefield, he won't put it up during the fight?
He will, we all know this. Doom's 'crush' isn't going to stop him killing her. Do you seriously think that lightning is a threat to Doom? He lives in Eastern Europe. Jesus.
Why is Storm able to evade him yet he is somehow open to her attacks without question? Wait, your name is Stormfront. Hardly an objective opinion.
"That statement would have a lot more credibility if you used an actual example of something that actually happened."
I swear Ice-Man went away as one of Marvel's weakest, 'discovered powers' and then came back as a credible match for the F4.
Yes, he didn't 'discover' anything. A self-indulgent moron got his hands on the character and pulled powers out of his ass.
Storm is no match for Dr. Doom. The only thing you have is the forcefield debate, in which you assume she'd catch him with it down.
-AC
storm can hit people without even seeing people. i'm not the only one that said that doom's field won't matter other people were saying it to so I went along with it also. Storm can evade his attacks by flying out of their way, she can move as fast or faster than mach 3. And she avoids attacks all the time. she can avoid cyclops optic blast even without her powers, because she did so when they had a fight for leadership and storm didn't have her powers then. she has enough sense to know to get out of the way in danger, she is above average intelligence after all. Also I didn't say that doom liking storm would prevent him from attacking her, I said that it might for a few seconds which is all storm needs to win. Again I am not the only one saying lightning will affect him, people are saying that his suit is made out of metal so it will have to do some affect to him. if she can short circuit sentinals then ahe can probably do it to his suit. storm has been shown to be able to make weather happen in places that she can't get to, this means inside his forcefield, if she hurts him in the forcefield then he might take it down which gives her the oppurtunity to really make a big attack.
"i'm not the only one that said that doom's field won't matter other people were saying it to so I went along with it also"
Point proven.
It will matter, because he will use it. You are assuming that he won't to aid your argument. Well, they are. You're just sheeping along.
"she has enough sense to know to get out of the way in danger, she is above average intelligence after all."
Doom is candidate for the smartest on Earth. Storm's "above average" intelligence is of no consequence.
Secondly, I'm not saying she can't avoid Doom's attacks, I'm saying Doom can avoid hers. Infact, he probably wouldn't need to coz he has a forcefield. Oh wait, you don't wanna let him use it.
"I said that it might for a few seconds which is all storm needs to win. Again I am not the only one saying lightning will affect him, people are saying that his suit is made out of metal so it will have to do some affect to him."
She isn't gonna beat Doom at all, much less in seconds. Do you actually read comics outside of X-men? Coz it seems you are just following everyone like a lost sheep.
Lightning isn't going to do anything to Doom if he's IN HIS FORCEFIELD. Stop making it out as if he's gonna be standing there doing the crip walk with no defense. Such a silly, biased opinion.
Storm can fly, will she? Who knows, maybe not. Just coz she CAN fly, doesn't mean she will, right? No, it doesn't. She will coz it's a power she uses. Like Doom's forcefield.
"if she can short circuit sentinals then ahe can probably do it to his suit. storm has been shown to be able to make weather happen in places that she can't get to, this means inside his forcefield, if she hurts him in the forcefield then he might take it down which gives her the oppurtunity to really make a big attack."
Doom isn't a sentinal, first of all.
Second, do you actually know where Storm has done this "inside forcefield" weather trick? Or are you just following everyone else? Coz I know where she did it. So be careful how you answer.
Opportunity to make a really big attack? Doom doesn't stand there throwing stones at you.
You obviously sap what other people have said and use it as your own.
Doom takes blasts from the Surfer and Thanos, Storm isn't going to beat him with lightning.
Demigawd said it's happened before, which as he will know, means that it will probably never ever happen again.
Either way, Storm doesn't win this fight. People need to stop massaging the X-Men. They're nothing.
-AC
I read that storm can affect people inside their forcefield on a storm website, and I also read it here, so I am pretty sure that it can happen. Also it makes sense that she would be able to because weather can happen anywhere. I didn't say that doom was a sentinal, but dooms suit is made of metal which means that it will most likely have some affect. storm will be able to create a tornado around doom which will mean that it will be hard for him to attack. This way she will be able to shoot lightning in there, or water then lightning which will make it more powerful. If hes in a tornado then she might be able to freeze him, she has done it before to omega red in seconds so why shouldn't she be able to do it again??
You read it on a STORM website, and here.
You haven't actually seen it happen, you're just believing what you read? Silly isn't it?
Why are you assuming "Oh Storm is gonna create a Tornado around Doom, harder for him to attack"? Stop making assumptions. These things are nothing to Doom. A Tornado isn't gonna stop him, lightning isn't, water or ice isn't.
THE WEATHER will not stop Dr. Doom. Let's get that correct.
"If hes in a tornado then she might be able to freeze him, she has done it before to omega red in seconds so why shouldn't she be able to do it again??"
Because Omega Red sucks. Doom doesn't.
You clearly have no knowledge of Dr. Doom so it's pointless you being involved.
You're sapping info off websites and other people, taking their word for it, rather than actually knowing.
None of what you are saying is actually going to lead to a win.
-AC
look, the writer gave the number of the comic and if I can find the website and comic number then i'll post it. i don't know what storm will do, but I am saying what she will most likely do through knowlege of her and her fightning skills
by the way this is what you said-Second, do you actually know where Storm has done this "inside forcefield" weather trick? Or are you just following everyone else? Coz I know where she did it. So be careful how you answer.
so you know that it has happened so stop acting like it hasn't. The weather can destroy countries, even the world. so your saying that doom is stronger than the world?? well than why is he fighting people like the ff if he is so powerful??
" i don't know what storm will do, but I am saying what she will most likely do through knowlege of her and her fightning skills"
Exactly.
Her knowledge pales in comparison to Doom's and so do her fighting skills.
"so you know that it has happened so stop acting like it hasn't. The weather can destroy countries, even the world. so your saying that doom is stronger than the world?? well than why is he fighting people like the ff if he is so powerful??"
I said I know something about it that you don't know. You haven't even seen it happen, you only know because others have seen it. So you using it in your debate is rather foolish because had no one said anything you wouldn't have known. Secondly, how do you know she won't be dead by then? This is a man who beat Surfer, Storm is no threat to him.
Why is he fighting people "like the FF"? Do you have any idea how strong the FF are as a team? They're the best Marvel team there ever was bar The Defenders.
Doom fights the Fantastic Four and has won. Fighting ONE X-Man is nothing.
You clearly don't know anything outside of the X-Men universe do you? No, you're a biased Storm fan.
-AC
So Doom's suit has stood up against Terrax, Silver Surfer, Ultron, the FF, Galactus, Thanos, Adam Warlock, Hyperstorm, etc...granted, his suit was destroyed by the Silver Surfer and Terrax in a cosmic rage that pushed the limits of the Surfer...and it was no pretection from the dreaming celestial...and he was utterly punked in in a battle against the beyonder...I still dont think there is anyway he would simply be overloaded by Storm's puny lightning...I think that assumption is pretty ignorant. Shield or no shield, his armor would still be able to withstand and electrical flux. Just because it is "metal" dont assume its plain iron. Its already been established his armor is immune to the control of Magneto...dont u think he would be resistant to something as frequent as electricity powers? Doom is beyond that...Storm would never fight Doom anyway, she owes him his life from back in FF vs X-Men when Doom healed her from a burn inflicted by the human torch, using sorcery and medicine. He also treated the entire X-Men, including Magneto like little children in that series.
what does biased mean anyway?? the only thing I don't know about is the fantastic four and many people seem to think that their not that powerful. just look at the other ff forums, people think that four x-men can beat the ff. also i'm not the only one who thinks storm will win. yes I am hardcore fan, you can ask me anything about storm and i'll know it,. I think that storm has a chance in this fight. if storm can get really mad then who knows what will happen.
"what does biased mean anyway?? the only thing I don't know about is the fantastic four and many people seem to think that their not that powerful."
No they don't. Where are you reading this? Stop going by what everyone else thinks and think for yourself. F4 are regarded by many as the greatest Superhero team ever.
"just look at the other ff forums, people think that four x-men can beat the ff."
What? In that forum where everyone agreed that the F4 would smash the X-Men? Oh yeah, I remember.
"also i'm not the only one who thinks storm will win. yes I am hardcore fan, you can ask me anything about storm and i'll know it,. I think that storm has a chance in this fight. if storm can get really mad then who knows what will happen."
Exactly. You are backing Storm just because you like her. You don't know about Doom, The F4 or anything else BUT Storm and the X-Men. Knowing everything about a character doesn't mean they'll win. She's a nobody to Doom.
Chance of winning? She'd barely survive. Let alone win.
-AC
She's just Storm. Nobody would ever say "He's JUST Doom."
She's JUST.....Storm. No single X-Man is a match for Dr. Doom, NONE.
Anyone would be nervous fighting Doom because he's Doom. Doom wouldn't be scared to fight any of the X-Men. He'd walk up to the Mansion and ring the bell.
He stole the Avengers mansion off them. That's Captain America, Thor, Iron-Man.
Storm would beat him? Funny.
-AC
Originally posted by stormfront13
what does biased mean anyway?? the only thing I don't know about is the fantastic four and many people seem to think that their not that powerful. just look at the other ff forums, people think that four x-men can beat the ff. also i'm not the only one who thinks storm will win. yes I am hardcore fan, you can ask me anything about storm and i'll know it,. I think that storm has a chance in this fight. if storm can get really mad then who knows what will happen.
So how does that comment on anything i just posted? I just listed several facts from actual comic books...instances where Doom's armor stood up against far more powerful opponents than Storm...If u know everything about Storm then u read the story where she was burned by the Human Torch...and u know Doom is above anything the X-men can throw at him...
Furthermore, lots of people talk about Doom getting beat...Doom has only truly lost on a few occasions...Dont confuse Doom with Doombots...Its revealed in FF # 350 that Doom was merely a Doombot in almost every appearance since FF#60
i already said that she might lose, but she will put up a good fight. storm is powerful. the weather can destroy the world. it can also kill. she is capable of killing wolverine which is hard to do and she can beat omega red. storm is a poweful chick and is strong enough to be on the JLA(yes it has been discusssed in the comics forum and other people agreee) or the avengers