I think they're better than Soundgarden by a long shot. Simple reason, take away Cornell and what are they? Decent guitarist and drummer, reasonable bassist. Add Cornell? One of the greatest bands. Rage aren't any less powerful as a band without Zack, they just played music to suit his ferocity. Why would Cornell, Tim, Brad and Tom come out of two relatively powerful and explosive bands........and make ANOTHER explosive, probably samey record? They did what I think was the best option, go the complete other way. Better for it.
Rage were better than Soundgarden because every member was top of their game. I think when Audioslave have been around for a while, they will be the superior band. I prefer them now. I like Rage in some ways more than Audioslave, but that's because I've got alot more Rage to choose from. When Audioslave have 3 albums I'm sure things will be different.
Either way, saying they're nothing in any sense is a bit much. I just think it's sad that people can't let go of the comparisons. They're Audioslave, not Rage or Soundgarden. They have the potential to be better than both and I believe they will, in time. You just have to give them a chance.
-AC
I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I like Rage in part, better than Audioslave. I just prefer Audioslave overall and I think, as stated, they have the potential to be the better of the three.
Most of the Rage fans I've spoken to, likewise with Soundgarden, admittedly like those bands more because they've grown up with them. People say the same about Velvet Revolver. I'm just saying I find it such a shame that a band can't be made with ex members of bands and drop the comparisons. They're a new band, let them be the new band. Regardless of if Audioslave turn out better than Rage in two albums time or not, you have to realise that they've been around since the beginning of 02 and had one album. If you can't let them get out of the shadow (which I think they have already done) of both former bands, then how can they live up to anything? It happened with Zwan, a great band. The reason Billy broke them up was coz they didn't sound enough like The Smashing Pumpkins or some stupid reason. When a new band comes out, instead of slapping them with a "you've gotta live up to" label (especially next to Rage, one of the greatest bands ever) you should just give them a chance.
Anyway, that being said I love Audioslave's album. It's one of my favourite albums.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I like Rage in part, better than Audioslave. I just prefer Audioslave overall and I think, as stated, they have the potential to be the better of the three.Most of the Rage fans I've spoken to, likewise with Soundgarden, admittedly like those bands more because they've grown up with them. People say the same about Velvet Revolver. I'm just saying I find it such a shame that a band can't be made with ex members of bands and drop the comparisons. They're a new band, let them be the new band. Regardless of if Audioslave turn out better than Rage in two albums time or not, you have to realise that they've been around since the beginning of 02 and had one album. If you can't let them get out of the shadow (which I think they have already done) of both former bands, then how can they live up to anything? It happened with Zwan, a great band. The reason Billy broke them up was coz they didn't sound enough like The Smashing Pumpkins or some stupid reason. When a new band comes out, instead of slapping them with a "you've gotta live up to" label (especially next to Rage, one of the greatest bands ever) you should just give them a chance.
Anyway, that being said I love Audioslave's album. It's one of my favourite albums.
-AC
I get what you're saying, and I think you may be right about Audioslave eventually coming out as the better of the three. But at the moment, I still prefer Rage...
And I've always liked Velvet Revolver better than GNR anyways 😛
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
It happened with Zwan, a great band. The reason Billy broke them up was coz they didn't sound enough like The Smashing Pumpkins or some stupid reason.
I wouldn't call them great. And that's not why they broke up, and it wasn't Billy's fault they did, it really gets me when people throw all that blame at him. Paz ****ed it all up by leaving (she's seems to be pretty good at it) to join Papa M, Dave's old band, so of course everyone thought Dave was going back to them too. Plus apparently the whole band was pissed because everyone saw Zwan just as ''Billy Corgan's band''. So he felt uncomfortable with them and realised that he could never put his heart into the group because it still belonged to Smashing Pumpkins.
Originally posted by Deathblow
I wouldn't call them great. And that's not why they broke up, and it wasn't Billy's fault they did, it really gets me when people throw all that blame at him. Paz ****ed it all up by leaving (she's seems to be pretty good at it) to join Papa M, Dave's old band, so of course everyone thought Dave was going back to them too. Plus apparently the whole band was pissed because everyone saw Zwan just as ''Billy Corgan's band''. So he felt uncomfortable with them and realised that he could never put his heart into the group because it still belonged to Smashing Pumpkins.
According to Jimmy C, they split up because they didn't have a proper collective focus, and were originally planning a different sounding record. I think it's really good though.
Paz sucks.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Yeah, well he isn't the the most lenient person to be in a band with is he.Your last line pretty much sums up what I meant anyway.
-AC
Funnily enough, my aunts knew Billy Corgan (went to school with him or something), and they said he is SUCH an ass.hole...
And...I dunno. I like Audioslave, I like them a lot, but something about them just doesn't sound right to me. Nivek knows what I'm saying, we were talking about this on MSN one night. I dunno, maybe after they have another album or two out I may think differently though.