penance VS. wonder woman

Originally posted by Khellendros
Uhh, I'm not sure why you're bringing up the cartoon. I didn't say Mongul beat up WW, I said Green Lantern did. With a sledge hammer. Which was my way of proving that his skin is not as durable as diamond.

Sorry I got it confused with another thread.

Of course, GL beat Mongul with a sledgehammer. The most powerful weapon in the world vs. Mongul. No contest. The sledgehammer was backed by willpower.

Mongul got thrown in to a sun. He's been nuked. He's far more durable than diamond.

Originally posted by Draco69
Sorry I got it confused with another thread.

Of course, GL beat Mongul with a sledgehammer. The most powerful weapon in the world vs. Mongul. No contest. The sledgehammer was backed by willpower.

Mongul got thrown in to a sun. He's been nuked. He's far more durable than diamond.

Actually, the ring would have had no effect on him. He's yellow. That's why Hal took such a mean beating putting him down.

Originally posted by Khellendros
Actually, the ring would have had no effect on him. He's yellow. That's why Hal took such a mean beating putting him down.

I'm referring to Kyle Rayner. Anyway, back on topic, Penance kicks her ugly mute @$$ kicked.

this fight could go either way

No way in hell. I've seen only how Penance can WITHSTAND her attacks. But not how PENANCE could ACTUALLY WIN.

you can't fight if your bleeding to death

You're assuming that Wonder Woman is stupid enough to continuously hit Penance with her fists if she's getting hurt in the process.

A whipcrack of her lasso or a faster than sound Class 100 punch will take Penance out. This is not even a debate.

k penance is durble and she is a lot faster than anyone gives her credit for

She has enhanced speed. Is she as fast as WW? Not a chance. Is Penance durable enough to withstand WW's hits? Not a chance. Diamonds are hard but not unbreakable.

WW's lasso was able to pierce the Imperiux Armour. Penance's skin is no contest.

Fine. Wonder Woman throws just one high velocity punch at Penance. Do you KNOW what happens when you punch somethign harder than you are with sharp edges as hard as you can? Your hand gets ****ed up. Nerve damage, bleeding, maybe broken but at least badly bruised knuckles. For the rest of this fight, Wonder Woman has to deal with this excruciating pain coming from her hand. Wonder Woman can try choking her, but using the lasso one handed isn't gonna be fun and it won't work anyways. Using the lasso as a whip isn't guaranteed to work, because Penance doesn't have any special vulnerability to magic. Meanwhile, the second she gets close enough to Penance, it only takes one burst of speed and WW is gutted.

Originally posted by Draco69
Is Penance durable enough to withstand WW's hits? Not a chance. Diamonds are hard but not unbreakable.

kell said it all

Originally posted by Khellendros
Fine. Wonder Woman throws just one high velocity punch at Penance. Do you KNOW what happens when you punch somethign harder than you are with sharp edges as hard as you can? Your hand gets ****ed up. Nerve damage, bleeding, maybe broken but at least badly bruised knuckles. For the rest of this fight, Wonder Woman has to deal with this excruciating pain coming from her hand. Wonder Woman can try choking her, but using the lasso one handed isn't gonna be fun and it won't work anyways. Using the lasso as a whip isn't guaranteed to work, because Penance doesn't have any special vulnerability to magic. Meanwhile, the second she gets close enough to Penance, it only takes one burst of speed and WW is gutted.

Sweet Jesus. Your bias against DC is staggering. Who says WW cannot pierce Penance's skin? Superman has shattered diamonds before. Even She-Hulk. Ten bucks WW can. The lasso pierced Imperiux's armour. That should say enough. You're completely underestimating WW. One whipcrack of her lasso and Penance goes down. Penance has Level 5 durability. She's bulletproof. That's it. She's not completely invulnerable. She's far from it. WW has nigh invulnerability. I seriously doubt that Penance's sharp edges can even pierce her skin. Penance would not be able to land a single blow to WW. Her armour is magically endowed. It cannot be pierced.

It's really quite sad. WW is completely on another level. WW has thousands of years of experience. Near Superman level strength and invulnerability, and faster than sound superspeed. Diamond? So what. Ten bucks she one punch is all she needs. She managed to destroy (and pierce) several Imperiux probes whose armour is far more durable than Penance's skin. Any blow that Penance tries to inflict will be deflected by WW's bracelets. WW can also use her bracelets as weapons. Hell, if she wants Diana can open a hidden compartment in her belt and unleash the Lansarian technology. Penance gets owned.

Originally posted by Draco69
Sweet Jesus. Your bias against DC is staggering.

Originally posted by Draco69
Who says WW cannot pierce Penance's skin?

Originally posted by Draco69
Superman has shattered diamonds before.

Originally posted by Draco69
The lasso pierced Imperiux's armour. That should say enough.

Originally posted by Draco69
You're completely underestimating WW. One whipcrack of her lasso and Penance goes down.

Originally posted by Draco69
I seriously doubt that Penance's sharp edges can even pierce her skin. Penance would not be able to land a single blow to WW.

Originally posted by Draco69
It's really quite sad. WW is completely on another level. WW has thousands of years of experience. Near Superman level strength and invulnerability, and faster than sound superspeed.

She-Hulk has shattered diamonds when she was class 75. WW is Class 100. No contest.

The lasso has pierced Imperiux's armour. His armour was impenetrable. Superman's blows couldn't pierce it. GL couldn't pierce it. Hell a nuclear blast couldn't pierce it. Not only did the lasso pierce the armour, it damn well shattered it.

Penance is a subpar fighter. WW has superhuman reflexes, superspeed, nigh-invulnerability, and eons of fighting experience. Penance would be moving at snail's pace to her. Her armour is magically endowed. By Zeus no less. Diamond claws ain't getting through.

WW is never overconfident. She knows better than to underestimate an opponent.

WW has raced the Flash several times. There is no "short bursts". I have no idea where you got that from. She can move at Mach 10 if she wishes.

This is no debate. You're just denying the truth.

Originally posted by Draco69
She-Hulk has shattered diamonds when she was class 75. WW is Class 100. No contest.

Originally posted by Draco69
The lasso has pierced Imperiux's armour. His armour was impenetrable.

Originally posted by Draco69
Penance is a subpar fighter.

Originally posted by Draco69
WW has superhuman reflexes, superspeed, nigh-invulnerability, and eons of fighting experience.

Originally posted by Draco69
WW is never overconfident. She knows better than to underestimate an opponent.

Originally posted by Draco69
WW has raced the Flash several times. There is no "short bursts". I have no idea where you got that from. She can move at Mach 10 if she wishes.

Originally posted by Draco69
This is no debate. You're just denying the truth.

Originally posted by Khellendros
Good for She-Hulk. What you aren't seeming to understand is that Penance isn't crystallized carbon. She isn't a crystal at all, thus she isn't going to be shattered. Her body, on the hardness scale, is at least equal with diamond. This does not mean she is prone to shattering.

Well it wasn't THAT impenetrable, now, was it??? 😆 😆

Yeah... but she's MEAN! And quick. Wouldn't hesitate to gut WW the first chance she got.

All of which gets considerably dulled when she's got a torn open fist.

She's just below Superman fighting a little girl with weird hair who won't ven be standing in a proper fighting stance when they meet. Wonder Woman has no reason to suspect Penance is about to kick her ass.

Starnet Database. It's a source you yourself have cited when talking about Wonder Woman's power.

It feels like a debate to me. I'm denying YOUR truths. You're denying mine. Thats how this thing works, except we're both too stubborn to give in.

If Penance is equal to that of diamond than she can be shattered. Please.

Do you even know who Imperiux is? I'm arguing with a child. Imperiux is DC's Galactus. The destroyer of galaxies. Do really think that if WW's lasso can pierce an armour that withstood the combined assault of the Darkseid and Superman, than Penance's skin cannot be pierced?

So Penance has emotional problems. So what? She's nowhere near as fast as WW. Any blow would be deflected by her bracelets (which she can use as weapons), and her armour is magically endowed by Zeus. It's nearly impenetrable. Not even Zauriel's sword could pierce it.

"She's just below Superman" That's the key sentence. WW usually lassos her enemies first. (she's a pacifist after all). The lasso can not only force people to tell the truth but it can force them to do anything the wielder of the lasso wishes. WW lassoes her. She commands her to surrender. Penance surrenders.

I have comical reference. You have a profile. Don't waste your time.

This isn't a debate. It's like trying to teach mathematics to cow. You have no argument. Just sarcasm and zero facts.

Also, WW has the Lansarian technology. She can summon a huge Wonderdome the size of a city. If she's harmed, the Lansarian technology will automatically heal her. Not to mention the Lansarian technology can teleport in any weapon and/or armour she desires.

Originally posted by Draco69
If Penance is equal to that of diamond than she can be shattered. Please.

Originally posted by Draco69
You even know who Imperiux is? I'm arguing with a child. Imperiux is DC's Galactus. The destroyer of galaxies.

Originally posted by Draco69
Do really think that if WW's lasso can pierce an armour that withstood the combined assault of the Darkseid and Superman, Penance's skin cannot be pierced.

Originally posted by Draco69
So Penance has emotional problems. So what? She's nowhere near as fast as WW. Any blow would be deflected by her bracelets (which she can use as weapons), and her armour is magically endowed by Zeus. It's nearly impenetrable. Not even Zauriel's sword could pierce it.

Originally posted by Draco69
"She's just below Superman" That's the key sentence. WW usually lassos her enemies first. (she's a pacifist after all). The lasso can not only force people to tell the truth but it can force them to do anything the wielder of the lasso wishes. WW lassoes her. She commands her to surrender. Penance surrenders.

Originally posted by Draco69
I have comical reference. You have a profile. Don't waste your time.

Originally posted by Draco69
This isn't a debate. It's like trying to teach mathematics to cow. You have no argument. Just sarcasm and zero facts.

Sweet Lord. It's like arguing to a wall. A foam wall at that. Not much inside.

You haven't responded to the Lansarian technology by the way.

You said you don't know who Imperiux is. Imperiux's armour is like Galactus's armour. It's quite tough. Penance's skin is nowhere as tough.

The Imperiux armour was not vulnerable to ANY magic. Not even Dr. Fate could pierce it.

Catch her off guard my butt. She's spars with Batman. She knows better than to underestimate an opponent. She analyzes all of her opponents. Even losers like the Riddler. WW has reflexes on par with Jesse Quick. She deflects machine gun fire with ease. A girl with limited training would not catch her off guard. WW's armour is her costume. Not the Golden Eagle armour. WW's fist wont be injured. Nigh-Invulnerability remember?

Wiggle her way out of WW's lasso? 😆 😆 😆 You crack me up. As if WW is gonna stand there, watching Penance struggle her way out of the lasso. Like she can. The lasso is being held by Class 100 character remember. The lasso mentally controlled the Joker. His mind is WAYYYYY more chaotic than Penance.

This is annoying.

I'm ignoring your "facts" because they're highly implausible. You completely ignore my facts as well as your own common sense.

You ARE wasting your time.

Sticks and stones may break my bones, but Penance will still gut Wonder Woman.

Wonder Woman's fist WILL be injured. Penance is harder than she is, remember?? And of course she doesn't get caught off guard by Batman. He's freaking BATMAN. Penance is just some random girl.

Fine, so Penance slashes open one of Diana's exposed thighs since her vaunted invulnerable armor is a pair of cosmic short shorts. Thigh gets cut open, ateries are severed, Diana is boned.

I didn't respond to the Lansarian Technology because you edited it in while I was replying and I didn't feel like editing my post. I seriously doubt itcould heal all wounds, or else Diana wouldn't need her awesome armor and bracelets.

Joker's mind is still only one. Penance is two minds in one body. Okay, so maybe Wriggle was the wrong word. It only takes one sharp twist and she's free. Besides, she IS prettyfast herself, and the lasso doesn't have superspeed. She could dodge it.

How do you know the armor was invulnerable to ALL magic? Did Fate use Olympain God magic?

Gut Wonder Woman? Not a chance in hell.

Wonder Woman's will NOT be injured. Please. Superman's forcefield is harder than Wonder Woman. So is titanium warheads. But are her fists injured? No. Wonder Woman has nigh-invulnerability. It would take more than a diamond edged little girl to injure WW.

As if Penance will actually manage to slash Diana's exposed thigh. She deflects bulletfire. A clawed girl moving at human speed won't be able to hit her. WW's reflexes are on par with Jesse Quick, the fastest woman in DC universe.

The Lansarian technology healed Diana when her arm was broken by an Aztec God. It contains the Purple Healing Ray. All injuries are instantly healed with it. It can even cure cancer.

Diana is trained warrior. The "awesome armour and bracelets" are part of her heritage. She's like a mix of Batman and Superman. Superman's powers with Batman's fighting skills and ingenuity.

Joker is incredibly insane. The Spectre had trouble contain his mind. Penance would not be able to wrest herself free of the lasso. It's held far more powerful opponents like Superman, Captain Marvel and even 4D energy. A whip wielded by a normal human hand moves at nearly the speed of sound. The lasso wielded by a Class 100 character moves incredibly fast. WW can also telekinetically control the lasso. Penance wouldn't be able to dodge the lasso. Wonder Woman has been able to capture the Flash moving at near-lightspeed. Penance is nowhere near that league.

Dr. Fate has access to all types of sorcery and magic. Everything he tried failed. Diana beseeched the Greek Gods and they said that the lasso was an effective weapon against Imperiux.

Penance loses. Period. Give up. You're making a fool of yourself.