i don't know why we have these arguments when we all know that the max in any ff game of teh character is always teh same 255 and that if they were all at 255 then the attacks that they execute would do little to no damage to each other but whatever but if you want to know who would win it would be squall and seifer due to teh heros and holy wars they carry you can't hurt someone who is invincible
Seifer was good enough to be Squall's rival, so saying that Seifer isn't a good fighter is a lie. He is damn good, just not better than Squall. Seifer and Squall paired up would be a tough fight for anyone, even Cloud's Omnislash. Zidane I can't speak for because I've never played whichever game he's in. From what I've seen (7+8), I'd have to say that Squall and Seifer win.
Originally posted by ArthasKnight
Seifer was good enough to be Squall's rival, so saying that Seifer isn't a good fighter is a lie. He is damn good, just not better than Squall. Seifer and Squall paired up would be a tough fight for anyone, even Cloud's Omnislash. Zidane I can't speak for because I've never played whichever game he's in. From what I've seen (7+8), I'd have to say that Squall and Seifer win.
Alright I guess you're aiming this towards me Arthas, well I never said Seifer was a bad fighter and if it looked like that I apologise, what I meant was that at the time I thought he wasn't in the same league as the others. Squall, Cloud and Zidane are the main heroes, they have fighting skills up the wazoo. Seifer is a computer controlled fighter who you never really see much of. Each time you fight him he's beaten rather easily and until FallenArchAngel pointed out my mistake I thought he only had one Limit. On the fight though both Squall and Seifer are too average to win, they aren't as strong as Cloud of as fast as Zidane, this in my view puts them at a disadvantage.
One thing how could Cloud be stronger than Squall, I mean sure he has a huge sword, but don't forget on one of Squall's limit breaks his sword goes so big that it pierces the sky and goes up into space, so if Squall can handle a sword that big it makes Cloud look like a whimpy prat with a fairly big sword
Originally posted by Lord Ryugen
Alright I guess you're aiming this towards me Arthas, well I never said Seifer was a bad fighter and if it looked like that I apologise, what I meant was that at the time I thought he wasn't in the same league as the others. Squall, Cloud and Zidane are the main heroes, they have fighting skills up the wazoo. Seifer is a computer controlled fighter who you never really see much of. Each time you fight him he's beaten rather easily and until FallenArchAngel pointed out my mistake I thought he only had one Limit. On the fight though both Squall and Seifer are too average to win, they aren't as strong as Cloud of as fast as Zidane, this in my view puts them at a disadvantage.
No, I still disagree. Seifer and Squall were at the top of their class at Balamb Garden; the elite, if you will. No one was better than the two of them. I don't think that any character in the game, except Squall and the sorceresses, are stronger than Seifer. The fact that he's defeated easily in the game doesn't prove anything because it's a game. I don't think it has too much bearing here. Besides, the AI isn't all that brilliant when controlling Seifer. So I think Seifer and Squall deserve much more credit than you're giving 'em.
Originally posted by FallenArchAngel
One thing how could Cloud be stronger than Squall, I mean sure he has a huge sword, but don't forget on one of Squall's limit breaks his sword goes so big that it pierces the sky and goes up into space, so if Squall can handle a sword that big it makes Cloud look like a whimpy prat with a fairly big sword
That sword was made out of energy which as far as I'm aware has no weight. I could be wrong about that but that's what I heard.
Originally posted by ArthasKnight
No, I still disagree. Seifer and Squall were at the top of their class at Balamb Garden; the elite, if you will. No one was better than the two of them. I don't think that any character in the game, except Squall and the sorceresses, are stronger than Seifer. The fact that he's defeated easily in the game doesn't prove anything because it's a game. I don't think it has too much bearing here. Besides, the AI isn't all that brilliant when controlling Seifer. So I think Seifer and Squall deserve much more credit than you're giving 'em.
I don't think you understand my point. Squall and Seifer were the best in Garden because they were superior fighters, not because they were stronger and faster than anybody but because they had incredible battle skills. Rajin has more physical power than Squall or Seifer because he has larger muscles. This doesn't make him better just stronger.
The reason I say Cloud and Zidane will win is because despite not having the same amount of training their skills are developed enough to make their physical attributes give them an edge. Cloud underwent the SOILDER process despite failing to get in, the Mako and J cells inside him increased his strength and speed to a point where he can swing his sword without suffering from fatigue. Zidane is an artificial being created on Terra, his speed and agility are incredible. Both fighters have more than enough skill to use this to their advantage.
And yes the AI on Seifer isn't great but name one fight where you seriously felt he was a challenge.