Interesting Bk6 & 7 Theories i found

Started by RebelPhoenix5 pages

I always wondered about the both of them having phoenix feathers in their wands and how they got there - also what affect that would have. If they both have the power of the phoenix in their wands to channel their power what would happen if something happened to Fawkes?

I've also been reading around and I've found in a lot of places that J.K.Rowling hinted that Snape might fall in love - do you all know about that already?

I was expecting you to answer RebelPhoe😄😛

I never thought that if something happened to Fawkes, that that would affect their wands. I mean, the state of the animal from which a hair, or horn, or whatever, is taken, doesn't usually have any effect on the wands they produce.

But then again, this is no usual case. And you had another good point, why then were two feathers taken from Fawkes for each of their wands? It can't be any coincidence they were destined for Brother wands.

This could bring up alot of points, like Harry really is the one the Prophecy was reffering to, if he was destined for the only Brother wand of Voldemort..

And i also wondered, did DD mention where he got Fawkes from? I think he did but i'm not sure

Lol - you know how to lure me into a thread now 😛

Hmmm.... I don't think DD ever mentioned where Fawkes came from and I've always wondered about that myself, I mean I know Hagrid tries to collect everything possible lol 😄 but a phoenix? That's gotta be something rare or tough to have like a unicorn. It also then leads to how Fawkes is connected to DD because obviously Fawkes knows when someone who is loyal to DD needs help and what to bring them - it is indeed a very loyal creature and very powerful so why would it choose to be there?

The wands thing - yeah I didn't think it would have much impact on the wands either but then I realised that with magic all the connections count - like if a witch/wizard whose cast a spell dies that spell usually comes undone no? So would the feathers work autonomously or would they lose their effect if something happened to Fawkes which would mean that finally Voldemort and Harry can do some serious damage to each other without the wands cancelling each other out? Not that I want anything to happen to Fawkes! Maybe Fawkes will somehow steal V's wand and take it's feather back lol 😱

lol 😛 then, if Fawkes being alive was preventing Harry and Voldy from a proper duel, someon could just go and shoot the damn bird, and get on with a real fight!

Fawkes is a very suspicious character, i suppose someone gave him to DD, maybe it was one of Harry's parents, you never know?

And yeah, about the Snape thing, i have heard of him falling in love with someone. It could be someone we haven't met as yet... or maybe it's someone we DO know... hmm... let's think of all the young witches there that might attract Snape....

Trelawny? Tonks? Mrs. Figg? 😆

i think we might learn more about fawkes but is he gonna b important in the next books?

Originally posted by celestial_moon
i think we might learn more about fawkes but is he gonna b important in the next books?

yeah, definitely, Fawkes is one of the most important characters in the whole bk, because he's the one who made Voldy and Harry's wands "Brother wands" which has caused a huge impact upon their duels, etc..

we might learn more about that connection as well...i think there is another thing that hasnt been mentioned yet

^I hope we learn more about Fawkes Celestial! I also hope we learna bout alot of otehr thigns as well like the veil and Snapes past etc

Tassie - LOL Trelawny!!! Now there's an interesting match! 😂 Tonks seems abit young, Figg lol ummm 😉. To be honest, I think if Snape was going to fall in love with anybody by now he would have so I don't think it's anyone we know that he's acquainted with it has to be somebody he's never met before or doesn't know very well.... but the problem is Rowling said she wasn't introducing anyone new unless she was fibbing of course. But it could always be someone already in the book that hasn't had much contact with him - LMAO what about Rita the gossip coumnist! hahaha Or what if it is a student! 😑 !!!!

Re: Interesting Bk6 & 7 Theories i found

oh god no, not a student... JK would have to be soo out of it

yeah, i know those options for Snape were just for kicks 😛 but it really could be Rita, i mean they could both get together and form a "We hate Harry" club, Snape would just LOVE that...

umm.. there's also some other theories at the top of the page, i was wondering what you made of them... here's one i was wondering about...

Originally posted by tassie
4 Dudley beat up a ten-year old named Mark Evans, who, coincidentally, shares a last name with Harry's mother. I dont think he will be Harry's lost brother because he's 10 (meaning Lily didnt die "that" night - which is impossible due to her protection on Harry). However, maybe Lily and Petunia had a brother?

Could this be some muggle from Lily's side? Or Harry's actual brother, who turned out to be a squib?
i think there's also some confusion still about who really is the one the Prophecy was reffering to

Hmm I wondered about this one but you know, to be honest I don't really think there is a connection and at this stage in the books i think it'd be an unecessary complication because there's so much already to sort out, to find out about and tie up as well as move forward with. The name might just be a coincedence but as we know from her track record Rowling is a very shrewd and clever writer who never seems to have anything by coincedence or just for the sake of it. She always has some symbolism in there. My one problem with it though is that if he were related to Petunia and Lilly I really doubt he would live near to them and she'd ignore him - surely she would know? Plus I think he's too young to be their brother so if he's related he might be a cousin or something and Petunia only ignores him because he has some magic in him too? I don't know, maybe she doesn't even know about his existence - but in general I don't think there is a connection but I could be wrong.

Okay, that's basically what i thought too..

Tell me if you have any theories also! 😄

I found some stuff 🙂

These are from Rowling interviews:

JK said at the Royal Albert Hall that a hint of what was coming in HP6 was in the book she is now reading. In 'Bless Me Ultima' an owl contains the spirit of a good witch named Ultima. Fawkes may carry the spirit of Dumbledore, and only when this phoenix is destroyed can Dumbledore be killed.

In a recent Interview on the BBC, Rowling has said that said that someone important dies and someone switches houses. Rowling has also indicated that Harry might date in the 6th book, possibly someone new to Hogwarts.

Exciting! 😄

seems alright

hmm... interesting 😄

Well, this leads us back to what we were discussing before about Fawkes and the wands thing. If Fawkes is killed, then maybe the curse between Harry and Voldemort's wands is lifted. But then that mightn't make a difference if they were to duel because imo, DD can't die until the Prophecy is fuflfilled (just like Gandalf in LotR, whose task was done when the Ring was destroyed).

Someone important dies?.... I wonder... there are soo many important ppl in the bks who are in question of being killed, so that clue is very vague.

Someone switches houses.... the first thing to cross my mind when i read that was maybe Harry could switch to Slytherin at last. It would be very interesting, not to mention risky.
I was thinking Neville might transfer to Hufflepuff, but then i thought back on what Harry said about him being in Gryffindor and that seemed to give Neville some confidence, so i doubt JK would transfer him.
Or how about if Draco transferrs to Gryffindor? 😄 😖hifty:

mayb hermione...

oh yeah, Hermione to Ravenclaw..

Yep, I thought Hermione too.

It's also confirmed that "Dumbledore's reasons for not giving Snape the Defense Against the Dark Arts job will be revealed." in the next bk.

here's another theory, i found it somewhere...
Prophecies in Harry Potter
One of the oddest unexplained elements of the Harry Potter books are Professor Trelawney's two "real" prophecies, both having to do with Harry Potter. It appears that she is merely a vessel for some greater being to pass along valuable information in the form of a prohecy. In fact, this doesn't seem all that uncommon in the wizarding world considering all of the prophecies sitting in the Deparment of Mysteries in Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix.

Can a prophecy become a tool of deception?
Should we question the validity of Harry Potter's prophecy - or any prophecy for that matter - because we do not know who is sharing the supposed 'wisdom'? Is it possible that a powerful witch or wizard, or perhaps some other being, could manipulate another creature in order to pass along a false prophecy? The Matrix Reloaded popularized the idea that an "Oracle" (not unlike a being speaking through Trelawney) might just be another means of control, that lies are possible. It is, of course, a question in the Harry Potter books that will fundamentally affect the events in book 6 and book 7. What do you think?

Applications of Time, Destiny, and Fate
Should the prophecy be questioned, or regarded as legitimate canon? Is there reason to believe that some powerful being, including possibly Dumbledore, exists to spread false and/or baseless prophecies simply to shape the world events? At what point does the TimeTurner affect the true nature of Fate in the Harry Potter books? Can Voldemort use one?

It's the last sentence that hit me the most... why doesn't Voldemort use a time-turner?

^ok that was kinda zzzzz^

but i found some more, not written by me of course..
I think that Aunt Petunia will be killed by Voldemort or one of the death eaters so that the protective spell enforced by Dumbledore over the Dursley house will be lifted and Harry will be defenseless.
- Submitted by Matt

J.K. said there was a small part in book two that was going to play a big role in book six. That got me thinking maybe it wasn't what someone said, but where they went. In CoS Harry finds out he is a parseltounge thus allowing him to open the chamber, also note that in OotP Draco and his squad find the DA room. So the DA needs a new place to prepare for the oncomming war and Harry is the only person who can open the chamber, so it seems logical that the Chamber of Secrets will play a bigger role in book six.
-Submitted by T.B.I.T.S.

i still stand by the hand of glory...it is one of the book title choices...but i do like tassie's idea. the parselmouth has 2 pop up again sometime.