I withdrew my son from school

Originally posted by Cosmic_Beings
I'm really frustrated right now. Yesterday, my son came home from kindergarten. Unbeknownst to me, yesterday they brought in two gay men and explained to the children that it's ok to be homosexual. My son came home and asked me questions about marrying boys, and I had a talk with the teacher, and finding out that it's true, I withdrew him immediately. What do you think of this, and what would you have done?

I think is too early for kids to learn about sex or sexual preferences. I can't blame you for withdrawing your kid from school. He is at tender age to be introduce to the real world. As he gets older he will learn about love and sexual preference.

Wow.....I read the first post of this page, and threw up.
I really did.

OK I think there are a couple things that need to be addressed first.
Firstly, why did you pull your kid out of school, was it because they were teaching about sexuality during kindergarden or because they had people say that being gay is ok? I can understand the sexuality, Children should not be taught about sex before say middle school/5th grade, but if it was the latter, then that is just bigatrous, (Is that a word?) and completly wrong.
Secondly, what if they two men were the parents of a child in the kindergarden? Would it be different then?

Originally posted by finti
would you do/react the same (way) if they came and preached christianity condeming all non believers to hell?

Depending on whhat faith they were preaching. If it was Orthadox, then Id be fine with it, but I still think they shouldd seek the parents consent.

Originally posted by Linkalicious
Children DO NOT need to learn material such as that at such an early age...period.

Young, Kindergarten children do not need to be educated on matters such as that when other things like math, reading, and writing are all much more important at that stage in development.

A Kindergartener will do almost anything you tell them...or anything they see a grown up doing.

If you tell a 6 year old that being gay is the way to be...then, IMO, he is more likely to grow up gay than a child who was never exposed to this sort of material at such an early age. They aren't old enough to form truly independent decisions for themselves, so they are more inclined to "follow the group" or "do as they are told."

Wait til they hit their teens....if that's when sexual education is introduced...then that's when homosexual education should be introduced as well.

I agree with you 100%, exept fo one thing, youre born homosexual you dont develop it, it may take a while to discover, but its a medical fact that homosexuality is actually (I dont know how to put this nicely so please dont take offence) a mentall defect or illness (And dont houndd me because I said it, I dont know how else to say it) that youre born with, say like OCD or schitsofrenia. Thats actually another reason as to why homosexuals are often so smart, etc, cuz look at schitsofrenics 90%of them are extremely intelligent, because in order fot the mind to be tangled there has to be something there to tangle.

Children who are too young to know what being gay is don't need to know that being gay is ok. Having a problem with a serious issue like that being taught to your kid at such an early age is not homophobic at all.. tolerating people's differences doesn't include letting people teach your kids whatever they want without your consent.

A lot of people feel that kids that age are too young to be taught what homosexuality is nonetheless teaching them that it's ok, and I agree. Before you tackle any of that the kid has to know what sexuality is, then once they understand why homosexuals are different they can learn to accept them for who they are.

Just telling the kids "being gay is ok" before they have the understanding of what being gay is is just like teaching race tolerance by going to a white kid who's never seen a black person and saying "black people are people just like you and me and should be accepted." If the kid has no understanding of what a black person is he'll be left with nothing but questions.

Originally posted by Linkalicious
If you tell a 6 year old that being gay is the way to be...then, IMO, he is more likely to grow up gay than a child who was never exposed to this sort of material at such an early age. They aren't old enough to form truly independent decisions for themselves, so they are more inclined to "follow the group" or "do as they are told."

Consider for a moment that almost all gay men and lesbians have grown up in a heterosexual world, with very little exposure to homosexuality. The overwhelming majority of gay men and lesbians were raised by heterosexual parents, educated by heterosexual teachers, and socialized with heterosexual siblings and friends. They were surrounded by heterosexism in magazines, books, movies and on television, yet they grew up to be gay.

Originally posted by Linkalicious
What if Jimmy and his best friend Stevie go around school at 6 years old proclaiming they're a "gay couple" just because they are best friends and that they are too young to fully understand all the aspects of the relationship?

Then when they are older, Jimmy and Stevie can reflect on the time they proclaimed to be a gay couple and have a good laugh.

Originally posted by Linkalicious
My belief is that sexual orientation is a direct result of the environment that you grow up in and not by "genetics" or "choice"

If a child, at a young age, was brought up to believe that being gay was "the norm" then that child, IMO, is more inclined to grow up gay.

Your belief is completely wrong.

Scientists at the University of Illinois at Chicago recently combed the entire human genome for determinates of sexual orientation... and found them on chromosomes 7, 8, and 10.

In the most comprehensive study of gay parenting, the American Academy of Pediatrics found that children raised by homosexuals are no more likely to be gay then children raised by heterosexuals.

Originally posted by debbiejo
It's a parents responsibility to teach their kids about that kind of stuff.

If the responsibility of teaching these things is left to parents, then most children will be taught misinformation such as "sexual orientation is a direct result of the environment that you grow up in" and "if a child is brought up to believe that being gay is 'the norm' then that child is more inclined to grow up gay".

Originally posted by Kosta
I agree with you 100%, exept fo one thing, youre born homosexual you dont develop it, it may take a while to discover, but its a medical fact that homosexuality is actually (I dont know how to put this nicely so please dont take offence) a mentall defect or illness (And dont houndd me because I said it, I dont know how else to say it) that youre born with, say like OCD or schitsofrenia. Thats actually another reason as to why homosexuals are often so smart, etc, cuz look at schitsofrenics 90%of them are extremely intelligent, because in order fot the mind to be tangled there has to be something there to tangle.

According to the American Psychiatric Association, the American Psychological Association, and the American Academy of Pediatrics, homosexuality is not a mental illness or emotional disorder.

According to the American Psychiatric Association, the American Psychological Association, and the American Academy of Pediatrics, homosexuality is not a mental illness or emotional disorder.

But, I still think the idea of homosexuality should NOT be introduced at such an early age. Just let the buggers grow up and learn on their own what 'gay' is. But make sure they stop using it as a synonym for stupid, pointless, poorly-implemented, unfortunate, etc., etc., etc.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
According to the American Psychiatric Association, the American Psychological Association, and the American Academy of Pediatrics, homosexuality is not a mental illness or emotional disorder.

It is actually a disorder. The brain instead of recognising Estrogen from women as being the sexually appealing hormone recognises testosterone. So strictly speaking, it is a disorder, maybe not mental, but a disorder it is.

Originally posted by Kosta
It is actually a disorder. The brain instead of recognising Estrogen from women as being the sexually appealing hormone recognises testosterone. So strictly speaking, it is a disorder, maybe not mental, but a disorder it is.

First, men and women produce both estrogen and testosterone.

Second, the brain is not capable of detecting hormone levels in the blood streams of other people.

Furthermore, what you are referring to are pheremones and it is a structure in the nose that recognizes them. One can and does recognize the pheremones of both sexes but only finds the pheremones of the sex he is attracted to pleasing.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
First, men and women produce both estrogen and testosterone.

Second, the brain is not capable of detecting hormone levels in the blood streams of other people.

Furthermore, what you are referring to are pheremones and it is a structure in the nose that recognizes them. One can and does recognize the pheremones of both sexes but only finds the pheremones of the sex he is attracted to pleasing.

Originally posted by FeceMan
Those facts have no bearing whatsoever on homosexuality being a disorder or not. The APA defines a psychological disorder as a pattern of behavioral or psychological symptoms that cause significant personal distress and impair the ability to function in one or more important areas of life, or both [behavioral and psychological symptoms].

It is not a disorder by either classification.

^ Yeah, I'm agreeing with you 🙂.

Hmm, an interesting situation. I find it strange that they would be going into sexuality at that young age, but then, how in depth was it? And what was the context? Surely the school wouldn't just decide one day to have gay guest speakers? While I think it is important to be taught tolerance (even at a young age) I think Kindergarten is a bit to early, and really, it more a parents responsibility at that point. But yes, I think to a degree you were right with you decision, as it does seem to be an odd thing to do on the schools behalf, although it would be interesting to know "why" they did it? IS one of the new students the child of a homosexual couple? Or is one a teacher or something? Something that might need explaining to stop disruption later on?

Also its interesting recently in Australia a children's show called play school (a show for kids 4 onwards) featured a little story about a kid, like any other story on there, except she had two mommies. There was quiet a lot of outrage about it, which I considered silly, as there was nothing sexual of confronting in it, it just showed that there were many types of family in the world, all of whom can exist as loving, close families.

Originally posted by Kosta
I think people should be allowed to make up their own mind as they grow up, and as for the school, I'd sue their asses for not sending out consent forms. Its like "Well if youre not a supporter of gay rght and we cant change YOUR minds, we'll shove our beliefs down the throats of your pre school aged children!"

Making up your mind when you come of age is fine but to be brainwashed from infantsy isn't. 😎

Originally posted by Filth
I think its important for children to learn this but that age is far to young you did the right thing in my opinion.

i have no problem with gays and lesbians!!! they in my mind are perfectly ok. i think u over reacted

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
One can and does recognize the pheremones of both sexes but only finds the pheremones of the sex he is attracted to pleasing.

Youre just proving my point here. Your brain proceses the information that your nose picks up, and if your brain finds pleasing the pheromones that men send out (and tehre IS a difference between the pheromones of me and women) then there is something not right with your brain. Pure and simple, nature intended for men to be attracted to women, not for men to be attracted to men.

I'm not some kind of nazzi though, dont get me wrong, I dont believe in gay bashing or anything, I'm just trying to prove a valid point.

Originally posted by Reborn Again
Making up your mind when you come of age is fine but to be brainwashed from infantsy isn't. 😎

That was actually my point too 😬

Originally posted by Kosta
Youre just proving my point here. Your brain proceses the information that your nose picks up, and if your brain finds pleasing the pheromones that men send out (and tehre IS a difference between the pheromones of me and women) then there is something not right with your brain. Pure and simple, nature intended for men to be attracted to wome, not for men to be attracted to men.

I'm not some kind of nazzin though, dont get me wrong, I dont believe in gay bashing or anything, I'm just trying to prove a valid point.

Nature did not intend for anything.

So teaching kids to be accepting of others is considered brainwashing?