I think I know what he is talking about.
Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
I think I know what he is talking about.
Dude, Glentract, you know your SW trivia. I bet if I referred to some vague article on an obscure website you would know it. I applaud you.
Originally posted by Darth Windu
That's bull. The Sith Magicians weren't around one million years ago. That's what "thousand millenia" means.
First: I guess this is some mistake on the site.
Second: Sith Magicians - that means SITH that practiced SITH magic - could well be around for one million years. We know that all Sith (the basic species on Korriban) had a connection to the force and were practicing magic and they could have done that long before the Dark Jedi came (25,000 years ago).
Back to the topic: Exar would kill Ulic. He is the better swordsmen and he has more "raw" power than Ulic.
Originally posted by Nai Fohl
First: I guess this is some mistake on the site.
Second: Sith Magicians - that means SITH that practiced SITH magic - could well be around for one million years. We know that all Sith (the basic species on Korriban) had a connection to the force and were practicing magic and they could have done that long before the Dark Jedi came (25,000 years ago).Back to the topic: Exar would kill Ulic. He is the better swordsmen and he has more "raw" power than Ulic.
Possibly. . . . but I doubt that the Sith could have had that kind of power as in later times nearly 925,000 years before the Jedi Order was formed. It's a possibility, though. And yeah, Ulic gets destroyed.
Originally posted by Darth Windu
Possibly. . . . but I doubt that the Sith could have had that kind of power as in later times nearly 925,000 years before the Jedi Order was formed. It's a possibility, though. And yeah, Ulic gets destroyed.
Bow you have your math wrong, it's 975,000 years before the Order's formation. lol 😄
In anycase, they would doubtfully be gaining power over that time because they were so primitve. Now saying that I believe Atlantis is real, but think of it like that. A lost Empire with amazing technological powers is lost and then some people rediscover it.
I'll ask again. I heard somewhere that Nai Fohl "proved" that Ulic ins't as good as it was generaly though.
Hmmm...I crushed Ulic ? Well...
I think you are refering to my post here:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=356499
Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
No offense Nai, but that doesn't show me a lot about Ulic. He did fight Exar and this Exar was able to come to a pratical standstill against a lightsaber grandmaster, Vodo Bass. Ulic also defeated Mandalore and this one knew some Sith Magic I believe. If you ask me, Ulic is still way up there.
Now...just to tell: Everything "great" that Ulic did was defeat his brother Cay and defeat Mandalore (who isn't a force user). If you watch his career it's not very impressive.
First off he wasn't trained from infancy on. His Jedi training did start when he was already a man because his mother didn't want to train him and his brother.
Well...after his training during his first mission (find a peaceful solution for the problems on Onderon):
- he didn't recognize Queen Amanoa and King Ommin as Dark Side users nor was he able to sense the dark side of Iziz
- Princess Galia was kidnapped by beast masters just in front of his eyes
- he was manipulated into taking aggressive actions against the beast masters by Queen Amanoa
- when he got to know that the people of Iziz are the ones that kept the planet at war he had nothing better to do than launch a battle against Iziz together with the beast masters and nearly failed until Arca Jeth came and saved the day
Arca Jeth declared that first mission to a total failure. After this:
- during the freedon Nadd uprising he again took completely hotheaded actions like killing Warb Null and cutting down King Ommins exosceleton.
- after that he came up with the stupid plan to infiltrate the Krath and destroy them from the inside just because of that plan he fell to the dark side
- he was captured and tortured by Satal Keeto than killed him (again acting because of his hate)
- he was manipulated by Aleema Keto
- after defeating Mandalore he attacked Coruscant with the forces of the Mandalorians and the Krath and failed in taking the planet over so he was captured by the Jedi
- later when Kun had saved him and they were on Ossus he killed his brother just to have Nomi Sunrider cuting his connection to the force
off
- then he had nothing better to do than betray Kun
Now...in every situation he acts without a thought just driven by his emotions and his arrogance. As I said...he is something like Anakin without having Anakins "raw power" or potential. Kun would have won his first fight against Ulic. And Kun as a Sith Lord would simply destroy Ulic.