i do agree surfer over supes in most cases but its unfair to say its no match. supes rivals him pretty well in terms of speed and strength. its just that, well, surfer can control matter and thats pretty intence. but in a completely physical fight its close with surfer on top.
and i did not know strange could control people. . . doesnt that mean he can control supes?
Dr. Strange was the only one to defeat Galactus therefore he can easily defeat the Silver Surfer. I don't think any of you who post these messages is aware of the power of this dimensions sorerer supreme. He could have easily also have defeated the beyonder by just opening up a portal to anther dimension or universe and imprison them there. As for cosmic power vs magic. I admit that the surfer looks cool in his surf board but there is no way he can defeat Dr. Strange. Cosmic powers? Dr. Strange would just conjure up a mystical shield. Strange does not even use a lot of black magic but when he does he can open up the gates of hell and let all demons loose. Do you forget he has the eye of agamotto and has the power of astral projection. Strange can even use power cosmic powers if he so so desires. He is a sorerere supreme. He can do anthing. He will probably turn the surfer into a white bunny.
http://www.silver-surfer.us/Top10list/Top10List.htm
this list isn't too bad
As long as it isn't Pre-Crisis Supes, he IS vulnerable to telepathy. So there goes Supes.
Someone mentioned Strange being wicked paranoid. Agreed...he'd have at least a decent enough telepathic block spell up (prep time or not) so that he could react...uh-oh to Xavier. But Surfer's the wild card. He could take Supes heads-up, it depends on what Strange does, and we don't know if Xavier could shut his mind down.
So in this scenario, pulling together what I've read on this thread and what I know myself, I'll say that the only one who couldn't win is Supes. The other three could all win, but of them I'd favor Surfer as 1, Strange 2nd, and X 3rd....not definitive, but since we don't know enough about them, and it depends on what Strange does, it's the best I can think of.
-DM
The battle depends on how it starts. For example, if a referee says, "Get ready. Fight!" then Proffessor X wins. He wins simply by reading their minds to see who plans on attacking him. He can disable or control multiple beings at once. He can make the others fight against themselves until there is one left. Then he can stop the last one's bodily functions or have him kill themselves. Now if Doctor Strange has the head start he wins. This is obvious so I won't go into details. Now if superman has the head start then he can only kill Dr. Strange and Professor X instantly (using speed of attack). But he may win or lose to Silver Surfer depending on their level of invulnerability to each other's powers. If Silver Surfer has the head start then again it is him and Superman.
its not a matter of who gets a head start, its which can withstand the force of 3 other powers simultaneously attacking him while simultaneously attacking the other 3. i dont believe its a mattter of speed because strange's magic is constantly flowing and x's powers are at the speed of thought, and well supes and surfer, nuff said. i still cant decide.
First of all mm is not more powerful in tele anything than prof x.
Secondly, superman can be controlled or eliminated by prof x.
Third, sufer could take out superman quickly.
Fourth, dr. strange may not be the coolest looking, but he is hella powerful and he would eventually win if surfer doesn't take him out.
Superman can't just zoom into lightspeed it has to be built up. That is a law of physics. That is not possible. In all possibility it would take him between 2-5 seconds to build up to lightspeed. He would already have gotten attacked and rendered useless by then by teleblasts from prof x.
So how the hell is he faster than thought. Lightspeed is faster than thought, he has to build up to lightspeed, he can't just"poof, I'm at lightspeed I'm faster than thought,I'm superman." Please, get your knowledge up, man.
Originally posted by jplatinum
So how the hell is he faster than thought. Lightspeed is faster than thought, he has to build up to lightspeed, he can't just"poof, I'm at lightspeed I'm faster than thought,I'm superman." Please, get your knowledge up, man.
Originally posted by jplatinum
First of all mm is not more powerful in tele anything than prof x.
Secondly, superman can be controlled or eliminated by prof x.
Third, sufer could take out superman quickly.
Fourth, dr. strange may not be the coolest looking, but he is hella powerful and he would eventually win if surfer doesn't take him out.
Superman can't just zoom into lightspeed it has to be built up. That is a law of physics. That is not possible. In all possibility it would take him between 2-5 seconds to build up to lightspeed. He would already have gotten attacked and rendered useless by then by teleblasts from prof x.
So how the hell is he faster than thought. Lightspeed is faster than thought, he has to build up to lightspeed, he can't just"poof, I'm at lightspeed I'm faster than thought,I'm superman." Please, get your knowledge up, man.
Why are you assuming the distance of the characters? I am a math/physics major. There is no flaw to what I wrote. I simply assumed they were in close vicinty to each other to start. And besides, no one or thing can reach the speed of light (If you want to be true to science). This is impossible. Lastly, who said that Superman had to travel at the speed of light? Bullet speed is faster than the speed of thought. That is why we humans cannot see or react to it. Superman has plenty of times darted like the Flash across a room seemingly at an instant.
Originally posted by Quick Freeze
its not a matter of who gets a head start, its which can withstand the force of 3 other powers simultaneously attacking him while simultaneously attacking the other 3. i dont believe its a mattter of speed because strange's magic is constantly flowing and x's powers are at the speed of thought, and well supes and surfer, nuff said. i still cant decide.
It is a matter of who gets a head start. This is common sense.
It also heavily depends on who decides to attack who first. Strange's magic is constantly flowing is nonsense. He has to think and move to cast whatever spell he wants. And in many cases he has to chant the words. This is also common sense. If I were superman i would go after xavier with a heat beam and then strange. This is because surfer is the only one who cannot instantly defeat me. If I were surfer I would follow the superman strategy. If I were xavier i would go after all at the same time. If I were strange i would erect a force field or teleport to another place (which ever is faster). In all cases. xavier would lose, since he cannot control all in time enough before someone shoots a beam at him. Strange would lose as well for similar reasons (he has to think to cast a spell). Thus it is between surfer and superman if they were smart enough to do the above strategies.
1) SS
2) SM
3) PX
4) DS
The first two are simply too fast and PX telepathy is surely faster than a spell.
If PX and DS would be there in their astral forms, it'd be a completely different scenario though!
1) PX; could not be physically harmed and is THE master of the astral plane
2) DS; same as with PX and has awful magic at his hands
3) SS; power cosmic...nuff said
4) SM; could do nothing to PX and DS and is just not as mighty as SS
Originally posted by wannabeSuperman can move astrally too. Torqasm Vo. In fact, on the astral, he may be even more powerful than physical Superman in comparison.
1) SS
2) SM
3) PX
4) DSThe first two are simply too fast and PX telepathy is surely faster than a spell.
If PX and DS would be there in their astral forms, it'd be a completely different scenario though!
1) PX; could not be physically harmed and is THE master of the astral plane
2) DS; same as with PX and has awful magic at his hands
3) SS; power cosmic...nuff said
4) SM; could do nothing to PX and DS and is just not as mighty as SS
Originally posted by Juntai😕 does he??? Then i'm not up to date with my knowledge about Supes. Sounds like a power and versatility overkill to me.
Superman can move astrally too. Torqasm Vo. In fact, on the astral, he may be even more powerful than physical Superman in comparison.
People seem to forget that Superman has vast mental and telekinetic powers.
Originally posted by h1a8
It is a matter of who gets a head start. This is common sense.
It also heavily depends on who decides to attack who first. Strange's magic is constantly flowing is nonsense. He has to think and move to cast whatever spell he wants. And in many cases he has to chant the words. This is also common sense. If I were superman i would go after xavier with a heat beam and then strange. This is because surfer is the only one who cannot instantly defeat me. If I were surfer I would follow the superman strategy. If I were xavier i would go after all at the same time. If I were strange i would erect a force field or teleport to another place (which ever is faster). In all cases. xavier would lose, since he cannot control all in time enough before someone shoots a beam at him. Strange would lose as well for similar reasons (he has to think to cast a spell). Thus it is between surfer and superman if they were smart enough to do the above strategies.
thanks for bring this back btw
but what i meant by his magic constantly flowing is that he always has some sort of defence up. thats why when he get punched out by the hulk or telepathically attack by a telepath, unexpecantly, he doesnt die. i have never seen a herald blast him with the power cosmic so i dont know if they have the same affect or not. heat vision would not do much to strange. you're selling him a little short.
yes X will probably loose because of the speed factor, which is disapointing because he is so powerful.
Strange also can fly faster than light.
Strange CAN'T DIE, his body can, but his spirit can't, if superman were to kill Strange's body, Strange's Astral form would pop right out and be ready to keep fighting.
How many times do I have to bring that up? If his body dies, he still can fight at 98% normal power via spirit form.
Strange wins this. And Prof X doesn't own a damned thing.