Originally posted by KharmaDog
I am aware of the concept of carrying capacity, I am also aware that humans, unlike coyotes, have the ability to manipulate their environment. This prolongs their ability to stay in an environment and utilize its resources, but will also result in sudden extinction rather than a slow die off.I think that you are under the belief that I disagree with the notion that the world is overpopulated. If you read my posts you would see that I believe that the world is currently overpopulated, however, I am also under the understanding that currently there are enough resources to feed the world's population but that, just because of the way things work in our world, that isn't happening.
However eventually, as the population continues to rise, more intense farming will deplete soils, oceans will (are) be overfished, waste will build up, clean water will be contaminated, and so on and so on.
It is indeed horrible that thousands of people die of hunger every day, and equally horrible that this goes on while a select few wipe their asses on hundred dollar bills.
But, like you said, there comes a point when we can't manipulate our environment any more and millions will suddenly die off. I don't know that we could consistently feed all the people who die of hunger from the occasional surplus of certain crops. It's also the nature of healthy living things to reproduce. Horrible as it sounds it may be better to let people die now than to make all 6 billion of us healthy enough to have kids and add to the already inconceivable overpopulation.
I have confidence if the worlds population becomes to much for this poor old planet to bear, we will be forced to look more towards expansion. The classic method of dealing with over population. Damn it humanity, get into space already and begin terraforming and off world colonisation...
...and then.... the total dispersement of humanity to the stars! I like the idea of it, I really do.
Originally posted by Deano
http://www.sacredcow.com/media/links/alex/enjoy_your_death_sm.ram
So your source for all this is a website called sacred cow? Very reliable.
"It's proven" that the UN is attempting to reduce the world population? There is a document stating this? He never cites a specific document nor does he produce the document.
Documents "proving" that AIDS was created in a weapons lab? Yet he is not referencing such documents.
He says tetanus shots were created with a hormone to sterilize women? He has never heard of side effects? Most vaccines are created the same way.
He "knows" that a biological weapon was released in the NY subway system? But he says the documents are sealed.
Challenging others to factfind for your statements is horseshit. He makes no effort to back up his claims other than saying there are documents.
Deano, even you have to admit that producing these so called documents is enough proof to convince people of the truth. Why do these guys never show their proof? Just like you, they demand that the skeptics research the information for them. If you can't see the problem with this, you have no right to call others blind.