Its just like Reborn Again said "1984", think of it this way when you are out in public they can watch everything your doing, ok fair enough thats to stop people commiting crime, but now they have been instaled in toilets. Its said they them tapes are not watched unless something happens, but how do we know there is not some govemental pervert watching us urinate? think about this violence in the home is rappidly increasing but would you let them put cameras in your homw to make sure you were commiting crime? NO you would not, so is it not the same in public places? i agree with them on privert property but in public places its simply spying on us, here in england they can hide a camera anywere in public. They dont have to warn you of them, tequnicaly this is what spying is "Spying: to seek or observe something secretly and closely" does that not prove that by putting up cameras tht nobody knows about as spying?