When you say "no energy absorbing sh*t", do you mean them fighting without Surfer just turning their powers off or Sentry pulling their solar power from them?
In that case, Surfer could just cut loose with his cosmic energy blasts (since in the Vs. forum characters are to be considered to fight at their full capability), and he could adjust it to a frequency that gives it the energy and radioactive signature of Kryptonite. And to those that say "Surfer doesn't know of kryptonite in this fight", he wouldn't have to, his cosmic awareness allows him to read energy signatures and he could just generate the antithesis energy to their power, similar to the way he could blast Gladiator with the radiation type he's vulnerable to at anytime if he wished but never does.
Now, if that's not what you meant, and Surfer is allowed to drain or short them out, then I offer this:
[This is by me from the Prime vs. Tyrant thread]
"Superman Prime (Kal El)'s base powers are absorbing solar/light/cosmic energy to feed his biomatrix. Sitting in the sun for 15,000 years doesn't change that fact. Suns have existed for millions of years and a character like Phoenix consumed all of its energy in moments. You really think a man that absorbs solar power is somehow immune to that? Silver Surfer could drain or short out Prime, and he can match Prime's speed. You can charge an electric car for a million years and have a million years of power reserves stored up and an EMP would still short out it's operation and render it useless.
A fist fight may be a different story, but Surfer could take Prime easily using his cosmic powers. Surfer's cosmic awareness allows him to know the source of Kal El's powers, and he has the means to either short or drain Prime's biomatrix and his GL Ring. He'd better not fight Surfer in space either, Surfer could just short him out and leave him for dead."
Now, if you take Prime and Pre-Crisis Supes, and place them against one hyperlight speed cosmic energy manipulator (Surfer), and another hyperlight speed solar energy/light manipulator (Sentry), what happens. You get two shorted out solar batteries cut off from their power source, a shorted out GL Ring, and two identical twins left with a Sword they more than likely are no longer strong enough to wield.
And contrary to popular DC fan belief (and I am a DC fan, though mostly just the GL and Batman storylines), this is possible and extremely probable.
"since in the Vs. forum characters are to be considered to fight at their full capability"
i am aware of that lol but it isn't a fight if they just Obsorb you know what i mean.
and am tired of people using same thing over and over.
Most of the fight silver is at he doesn't even need the obsorbing anyway his too powerful for cheap tricks like that , and Molucule arangment and other cheap victory methods.
I hear ya homie. In that case, the kryptonite radiation blasts would work, and it's not a cheap drain/matter manipulation trick. Superman is stronger physically than Surfer (though arguably Surfer can augment his physical strength to an unknown degree, but he never shoes it due his pacifist persona in the comic, so you never know), but Surfer is just as fast if not faster than Supes and has the means to exploit all of Kal El's weaknesses. That's his ace in the hole. He really wouldn't need Sentry in this fight considering Superman's weaknesses.
Originally posted by illadelph12
When you say "no energy absorbing sh*t", do you mean them fighting without Surfer just turning their powers off or Sentry pulling their solar power from them?In that case, Surfer could just cut loose with his cosmic energy blasts (since in the Vs. forum characters are to be considered to fight at their full capability), and he could adjust it to a frequency that gives it the energy and radioactive signature of Kryptonite. And to those that say "Surfer doesn't know of kryptonite in this fight", he wouldn't have to, his cosmic awareness allows him to read energy signatures and he could just generate the antithesis energy to their power, similar to the way he could blast Gladiator with the radiation type he's vulnerable to at anytime if he wished but never does.
Now, if that's not what you meant, and Surfer is allowed to drain or short them out, then I offer this:
[This is by me from the Prime vs. Tyrant thread]
"Superman Prime (Kal El)'s base powers are absorbing solar/light/cosmic energy to feed his biomatrix. Sitting in the sun for 15,000 years doesn't change that fact. Suns have existed for millions of years and a character like Phoenix consumed all of its energy in moments. You really think a man that absorbs solar power is somehow immune to that? Silver Surfer could drain or short out Prime, and he can match Prime's speed. You can charge an electric car for a million years and have a million years of power reserves stored up and an EMP would still short out it's operation and render it useless.
A fist fight may be a different story, but Surfer could take Prime easily using his cosmic powers. Surfer's cosmic awareness allows him to know the source of Kal El's powers, and he has the means to either short or drain Prime's biomatrix and his GL Ring. He'd better not fight Surfer in space either, Surfer could just short him out and leave him for dead."
Now, if you take Prime and Pre-Crisis Supes, and place them against one hyperlight speed cosmic energy manipulator (Surfer), and another hyperlight speed solar energy/light manipulator (Sentry), what happens. You get two shorted out solar batteries cut off from their power source, a shorted out GL Ring, and two identical twins left with a Sword they more than likely are no longer strong enough to wield.
And contrary to popular DC fan belief (and I am a DC fan, though mostly just the GL and Batman storylines), this is possible and extremely probable.
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even with the handicap team 1 still win but maybe sentry dies... 😛
Originally posted by Enyalus
KG was using goldielocks here. Meaning, both Supermen were from the same universe...kind of. (PC era Didn't have those rules, anyway.)
Originally posted by Enyalus
What do you mean? Goldielocks is the Earth-0/New Earth Superman, just deep into the future.He doesn't come from a different universe.
Originally posted by jalek moye
Surfer isn't from nor in his universe, so any kryptonite blasts surfer makes wouldnt originate there so they would have no effect on him. Remember kryptonite only works if from their home universe.
Your argument amounts to no one from Marvel being able to produce Kryptonite because they're from Marvel...which is not right.