Originally posted by DrDoom
Where does it say Class 60 is his base?Seriously, if you can show me an accurate bio that says class 60 is his base (not his max like the directory says) then I'll be quiet.
In the fight with Thor he was getting handled, and had to increase his energy just to keep up, and I'm sure anyone fighting BB would notice the glowing fork on his head, thunder god or not.
Keeping up? Yeah he was keeping up with Thor alright, like he did fighting Gladiator.
Thing is class 85
...okay.
And this proved? (besides the fact that you have a nice scanner)
Having a class of strength and TAKING A PUNCH are two entirely different things.
How many times has a character with super strength been knock thru things when they've fought? Thing isnt the Juggernaut, and BB has more than enough strength to knock him off his feet--especially when he was flying at him.
He knocked Thing 100 feet and Thing wasn't even phased. Thing clobbered him and he was groggy from 1 hit. Besides, you already showed him battle with Thor and knock him around a bit, so what does it prove showing him get stunned by 1 blow from a weaker opponent?
The Hulk has eaten Thing for breakfast,lunch, and dinner on many occasions, and Superman can match his strength (for the most part).
If a double axe-handle with a big rock from a class 85 strength opponent makes BB groggy, what do you think a near full strength blow from Superman would do?
Also, anyone with sufficient enough strength can take Gladiator on for a time, and if they were able to knock him around a bit it might even make his self confidence falter, making him weaker.
Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
My point is, Superman won't be able to just put BB down with a one-banger. Black Bolt will get a chance to shout, and when he does, as you said,Supe's done. (pun intended.)
I never said that Superman would take him out in 1 punch, I said that Superman could use his speed to land a lot more blows than BB, which would put him down for the count. He could also train his heatvision and arctic breth on him while he's doing it.
Besides, it's not like Superman is going to stand in the line of fire when BB screams. He could sense something is up and zip behind him before BB lets it loose--then agin he may just say "WTF is he doin'?" and get blasted.
Originally posted by DrDoom
How many times has a character with super strength been knock thru things when they've fought? Thing isnt the Juggernaut, and BB has more than enough strength to knock him off his feet--especially when he was flying at him.He knocked Thing 100 feet and Thing wasn't even phased. Thing clobbered him and he was groggy from 1 hit. Besides, you already showed him battle with Thor and knock him around a bit, so what does it prove showing him get stunned by 1 blow from a weaker opponent?
The Hulk has eaten Thing for breakfast,lunch, and dinner on many occasions, and Superman can match his strength (for the most part).
If a double axe-handle with a big rock from a class 85 strength opponent makes BB groggy, what do you think a near full strength blow from Superman would do?
Also, anyone with sufficient enough strength can take Gladiator on for a time, and if they were able to knock him around a bit it might even make his self confidence falter, making him weaker.
He wasn't flying when he knocked Thing. Look at it again. And Superman doesn't have Juggy's durability either.
Yeah, and Black Bolt has eaten Hulk for all three courses as well. He takes Hulk's punches as well.
Superman? Because Superman punches harder than Gladiator, Thor, or Hulk? Please.
Yeah, knock him around a bit and his confidence drops. 🙄 Yup, Supreme sure had Kallark's number. Oh, my bad. I'm using crossovers. Let me try this again. Yup, Thor's hammering away at Gladiator dropped Kallark's confidence. Oh wait, Gladiator nearly killed Thor if Tarene didn't interfere, and Enchantress to help Blake retrieve his hammer. Maybe when he was battling Surfer...oh wait...he stalemated the herald. A big bad maniac like Tyrant? Nah, I don't seem to recall his confidence dropping. He was getting beaten up like everyone else, but his confidence didn't drop.
Originally posted by DrDoom
I never said that Superman would take him out in 1 punch, I said that Superman could use his speed to land a lot more blows than BB, which would put him down for the count. He could also train his heatvision and arctic breth on him while he's doing it.Besides, it's not like Superman is going to stand in the line of fire when BB screams. He could sense something is up and zip behind him before BB lets it loose--then agin he may just say "WTF is he doin'?" and get blasted.
😆 This is a one on one fight in a desserted place. BB's voice attack is omnidirectional. Try and ZIP around that Supes.
Originally posted by Beyonder
He wasn't flying when he knocked Thing. Look at it again. And Superman doesn't have Juggy's durability either.
It looked like BB flew at him, but I guess he jumped--either way he threw himself at him.
Superman is also alot more durable than the Thing.
Yeah, and Black Bolt has eaten Hulk for all three courses as well. He takes Hulk's punches as well.
Yes he has, but in that page he got rocked--literally.
Superman? Because Superman punches harder than Gladiator, Thor, or Hulk? Please.
When did I say he did? Oh that's right...I DIDN'T. I said he punches just as hard.
😉 Yeah, knock him around a bit and his confidence drops. 🙄 Yup, Supreme sure had Kallark's number. Oh, my bad. I'm using crossovers. Let me try this again. Yup, Thor's hammering away at Gladiator dropped Kallark's confidence. Oh wait, Gladiator nearly killed Thor if Tarene didn't interfere, and Enchantress to help Blake retrieve his hammer. Maybe when he was battling Surfer...oh wait...he stalemated the herald. A big bad maniac like Tyrant? Nah, I don't seem to recall his confidence dropping. He was getting beaten up like everyone else, but his confidence didn't drop.
lol, that's why it said might dude. You never know, Gladiator could slip up if an opponent was taking it to him enough.
As for the Gladiator/Supreme fight: Yeah, like one character is going to be shown manhandling another character in a crossover book with a different company 😮💨
Originally posted by Fanboy
Wow your kidding me right I mean that blonde dude who was attacking Black Bolt was not as fast or as strong as Superman I mean Black Bolt kicks ass but Superman still comes out on top.
Blonde dude...'kay guess you do know your comic characters. That blonde dude is just a weakling. And slow? Gladiator is so slow too. 🙄
Originally posted by DrDoom
Hmmmm...a group of monsters Vs. one of DC's biggest superheroes.I wonder who would win...
😂Of COURSE they were going to lose to Batman!
That's what the Aliens do: lose to the hero.
I'm talking about hero vs. hero battles, how many have you seen where one hero was dominated by the other?
JLA/Avenger - Thor job to Superman.
So Marvel Let Thor Job To Superman... You Act Like That Was A DC Only Book... Both Companies Had A Say In That Book... Marvel Let One Of Their Staple Characters Loose To Superman... Sure It Could Have Been Written Differently... But Obviously Someone In The Marvel Hierarchy Decided Thor Was Going To Lose To Superman... Superman Equals A... Thor Equals B... BB Equals C... Simple Logic... A>B... B>C... So... A>C... But That Would Be Too Logical... Aside From The Fact That BB Want Even Considered In Any Marvel/DC Crossover... Makes You Think Huh?
To even out Thor's loss they made it so that Superman wasn't worthy enough to lift his hammer.
Like Bootleg said, both companies had a say about the outcomes. Why do you think Flash punked Quicksilver, but Quicksilver stomped Flash once he went to the Marvel U? Why do you think they showed Superman and Thor get up at the same time after thier fight? Why do you think Batman admitted to Cap that he would get beaten by him? Why do you think Green Lantern whooped Captain Marvel, but the next time they met CM whooped him?
This crossover was years in the making, and the first time they were going to do it Marvel and DC fought over who would lose to who. They couldn't reach an agreement so they scrapped the comic. This time they knew they had to meet eachother half way.
Any other examples?
It could go either way...i will admit i think superman is honestly far stronger and durable etc, at BB base level...BB can charge himself up to take on any challenge eventually. And Superman would def be harmed...if not killed by a scream from BB...if window shattering concusions from Doomsday killed Supes, mountain shattering power of BB would really f-him up.
Originally posted by DrDoom
To even out Thor's loss they made it so that Superman wasn't worthy enough to lift his hammer.Like Bootleg said, both companies had a say about the outcomes. Why do you think Flash punked Quicksilver, but Quicksilver stomped Flash once he went to the Marvel U? Why do you think they showed Superman and Thor get up at the same time after thier fight? Why do you think Batman admitted to Cap that he would get beaten by him? Why do you think Green Lantern whooped Captain Marvel, but the next time they met CM whooped him?
This crossover was years in the making, and the first time they were going to do it Marvel and DC fought over who would lose to who. They couldn't reach an agreement so they scrapped the comic. This time they knew they had to meet eachother half way.
Any other examples?
I thought you said one company wasn't going to let another companies character manhandle the other companies character?
DrDoomStill,
BB's only hope is if Superman doesn't know about his scream and Bolt hits him with one point-blank. THAT would put Superman down...
I guess with this line Superman for some unknown reason probably knows about Black Bolt's scream. So Superman can detect some's ability now?