Originally posted by Arachnoidfreak
YES. And he's done it before, shatter a planet sized asteroid.WILL SOMEONE PICK UP A HULK COMIC FOR ONCE!?
"YES"?
So Hulk can becomes strong enough to beat down a Celestial
in a physical fight? He can eventually get strong enough to
lift, say, 100 nonillion (100 followed by 30 zeros; heavier
than the weight of Earth)?
Please. I am so sick of this "if he gets angry enough..."
arguement for the Hulk. The Hulk in the end is only a
mortal who has been given strength through a gamma
radiation bomb. He's not some universal Cosmic Being.
There is a limit to the Hulk's strength. The fact that that
limit is beyong any other earthly super-being, doesn't
make his strength unlimited.
Originally posted by King Burger
Back to this topic: Colossus pounds the Hulks into bloody
unconsciousness.Think about it, what would happen if Colossus quickly plunged
his open hands, his fingers, into any of the Hulks? Ofcourse,
they'd go right through into them. Colossus can just reach in
there and pull out their intestines if he wanted to.Maybe they'd heal eventually, but it sure would hurt like hell,
and stop them for a while.
Hulk doesn't heal slowly. He heals extremlely quickly. He has healed from a skeleton in minutes. He has regenerated his stomache and intestines in seconds. His skin is virtually impenetrable. His bones are virtually unbreakable. Wolverine has tried cutting Hulk, and his adamantium claws are razor sharp. No such luck. Colossus is trying to punch his blunt adamantium fist through Hulk's body? No way. Not happening. He may hurt Hulk, but he certainly won't go through him.
Hulk's base strength is considerably more than 100 tons. It's closer to 100,000 tons. He has "the strength of a thousand armies" even before he gets angry.
Originally posted by King Burger
"YES"?So Hulk can becomes strong enough to beat down a Celestial
in a physical fight? He can eventually get strong enough to
lift, say, 100 nonillion (100 followed by 30 zeros; heavier
than the weight of Earth)?Please. I am so sick of this "if he gets angry enough..."
arguement for the Hulk. The Hulk in the end is only a
mortal who has been given strength through a gamma
radiation bomb. He's not some universal Cosmic Being.
There is a limit to the Hulk's strength. The fact that that
limit is beyong any other earthly super-being, doesn't
make his strength unlimited.
Whether you're sick of it or not, it's the truth.
Yes, Hulk could physically overpower a Celestial. Even Thanos fears encountering Hulk in a match of pure strength. Hulk is not just a mortal, he is the "mightiest mortal ever to walk the earth." He doesn't have any limit to how angry or strong he can get. He is a relentless vessel of rage without logical thought. Hulk has the capacity for near infinite strength; like it or not.
Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Hulk doesn't heal slowly. He heals extremlely quickly. He has healed from a skeleton in minutes. He has regenerated his stomache and intestines in seconds. His skin is virtually impenetrable. His bones are virtually unbreakable. Wolverine has tried cutting Hulk, and his adamantium claws are razor sharp. No such luck. Colossus is trying to punch his blunt adamantium fist through Hulk's body? No way. Not happening. He may hurt Hulk, but he certainly won't go through him.Hulk's base strength is considerably more than 100 tons. It's closer to 100,000 tons. He has "the strength of a thousand armies" even before he gets angry.
In many other threads, i tend to agree with you Cosmic Cube on
many things. But here I disagree very strongly.
I haven't read any Hulk comics in a few years, but I used to read
them regularly since the later 80's,and I can't really remember the
Hulk being able to heal that quickly. This is obviously a recent thing,
part of those bulls*** "DragonBall Z"-like power-ups that Marvel
has been giving to their characters.
About the fist, I didn't mean a closed fist, I meant an open
fist, with the fingers extended and closed, like so ||||, . Such
a punch would pierce the Hulk's skin.
And about the Hulk's base strenght being 100,000 tons, if that
was true, then there wouldn't be any Hulk comics, since he
would just kill any and all opponents, including the Abomination,
Juggernaut, the Thing, Colossus, She-Hulk, Doc Sampson, Thor,
and all of Marvel Earth's strong guys, with one punch!
Not necessarily.
Hulk has been healing since, well not exactly since his origin, but for a pretty damn long time now. It has been one of his integral powers.
The Abomination, Thor, and most other Marvel level 7 strong guys can lift considerably more than one hundred tons. All of them have superhuman durability. The Hulk has never lost to the Thing, and most of their fights end with Thing soaring over the horizon. Keep in mind that this is a comic book. It would be stupid for Hulk to kill all of his enemies, no one would read Hulk. Besides, Hulk rarely tries to kill his opponents, he just does enough to get them to leave him alone.
Hulk has shifted tectonic plates in a calm state. His strength is 100,000 tons, easily.
War without the Celestial Sword is just Professor Hulk in armor with a whip. As I have said, Apocalypse did not enhance his strength, or durability. No Celestial Sword = No War Hulk. The Absorbing Man was kicking War Hulk's ass until he used his sword, the only source of War Hulk's power.
The Maestro's strength is no greater than the Professor Hulk's, and all of his abilities are identical. He's just alot smarter, he's a much better fighter, and he's more cunning.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
"I haven't read many Hulk comics for a few years".There's a phrase that applies here, begins with N and ends with Ull and void.
-AC
If you're going to quote me for an insult, then atleast quote me
correctly.
I wrote: "I haven't read any Hulk comics in a few years,...",
that's any, not many.
Besides, occasional spelling or grammatical mistakes don't make
one's arguements invalid.
Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
War without the Celestial Sword is just Professor Hulk in armor with a whip. As I have said, Apocalypse did not enhance his strength, or durability. No Celestial Sword = No War Hulk. The Absorbing Man was kicking War Hulk's ass until he used his sword, the only source of War Hulk's power.The Maestro's strength is no greater than the Professor Hulk's, and all of his abilities are identical. He's just alot smarter, he's a much better fighter, and he's more cunning.
I prefer facts not opinions. War's strength was increased and Maestro was believed to have a base strength of 200 tons.
Originally posted by King Burger
If you're going to quote me for an insult, then atleast quote me
correctly.I wrote: "I haven't read any Hulk comics in a few years,...",
that's any, not many.Besides, occasional spelling or grammatical mistakes don't make
one's arguements invalid.
Hahaha, oh dear. Where did I insult you? Jeez, you people are SO easily offended. If I cared about any of you I'd watch my words...but...
Anyway, using For or In, my reply still applies. You haven't read any Hulk comics in/for a few years (which amounts to the same thing). So you can't exactly comment on the current and recent Hulk can you?
As for the any/many debate, I was giving you more credit by saying "many" (although it was accidental). At least then it would have meant you read some. You haven't read ANY though, so it only strengthens my claim.
On topic: Hulk's healing isn't recent. Did you see how fast he healed when he fought Speedfreak, that was ages ago. So was the skin burning. He didn't even NEED to heal from Trauma's ray gun shot, he just stood there mocking it.
I suggest people do what Arachnoid Freak put forward: Pick up a Hulk comic or two.
Try again.
-AC
Alpha Centauri, I say this with all sincerity, but of all the people
in this Forum site, you are by far the most annoying, intolerable
jerk I've ever come across.
Do me a favor, from now on don't reply to anything I write.
Don't mention me or quote me, or make any references to me,
agreed?
As for what I wrote to Cosmic Cube, I was refering to the Hulk
healing from a skeleton part. Idiot.
Originally posted by David Duchovony
I prefer facts not opinions. War's strength was increased and Maestro was believed to have a base strength of 200 tons.
You prefer facts? If you do, why are you stating what Maestro's strength is believed to be instead of what it is? That's quite a paradox. War Hulk's strength was not increased, and you cannot prove that it was. His only source of power is the celestial sword. That's a fact for ya.
This is the Maestro I'm talking about: http://www.geocities.com/marvel_megalomaniac/maestro/maestro.html
Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
You prefer facts? If you do, why are you stating what Maestro's strength is believed to be instead of what it is? That's quite a paradox. War Hulk's strength was not increased, and you cannot prove that it was. His only source of power is the celestial sword. That's a fact for ya.
Originally posted by K3VIL
War Hulk's strenght was increased.Go read the comic please, please.
He can tap into the energy of 2universes, thanks to Celestia hi-tech machines.
It really wasn't. I've read the comic. His power was increased, not his strength. Savage Hulk is stronger than War Hulk. Juggernaut pushes War halfway across the continent, and the Absorbing Man stomps his head in. Savage Hulk has sufficiently resisted Juggernaut's force, while War Hulk couldn't even slow him. War Hulk can't get stronger, either. The power of two universes is contained within the sword. That's how he blasted the Absorbing Man to bits. The armor does alot. So does the sword. Increasing strength is not one of the things it does.