i think he stole the writers and some behind the scenes people...i was probably exaggerating and it was a good thing he left but still he was supposed to be all dedicated to it and then he left..not good
maybe the new one will be better, we dont know yet- i hope he is better... heard he did a good job on layer cake..
and maybe they drop the x-men suits they have in he movie and bring in the ones hey have in the comics...
Originally posted by katie_girl09
I must admit that this is really disturbing news, but think about it: how are we so sure that this is actually true? I mean, people post a lot of stuff on the internet...
and angel will not be a female, he is going to be a he. I posted a messange on the other Angel thread.
Originally posted by pr1983
hes not a crappy character, if people actually sat down and paid attention to him they'd see that he has a lot of depth...maybe singer and the writers portrayed him as a crap character, but thats their fault...
Yes, but to your average moviegoer he's a crap character that's keeping Logan away from Jean.
That's what matters. Out of everyone I've talked to (who aren't comic fans) only two people like Cyclops, one girl just liked him because Marsden got her moist. 😮
Originally posted by pr1983
hes not a crappy character, if people actually sat down and paid attention to him they'd see that he has a lot of depth...maybe singer and the writers portrayed him as a crap character, but thats their fault...
People don't want depth though.
That's the problem with the X-Men and I've always said it. They have about 80 characters all with their own back stories and they try to delve into each one of them for the purposes of milking the cash cow rather than keeping a select few consistently throughout the years and making them best sellers through writing them well. Not bringing people back and killing them off.
The F4 have always been the F4 and always been great, regardless of writer.
Either way, that's why Surfer got cancelled. People don't want deep characters who philosophise. They want to see shit getting blown up and people fighting.
-AC
If true, then maybe they made the decision because they
thought that a male "angel" would be a little wierd for the
non-X-men fans in the audience. Angels are usually
portrayed in the media and arts as either chubby babies,
or women (ignoring the Bible ofcourse), so maybe they
figured that some people in the audience would be more
used to a female "angel" (even if "Angel" is only a name, and
not a real angel).
Also, they may have figured that they need one more female
character, again for the sake of the audience, to appeal to
women more (common Hollywood logic: more females on
the screen=more females in the seats; ofcourse it rarely works
out that way, but they don't care).
Besides, they already ruined the otherwise kick-a** Rogue
(one of the coolest female characters in all of comics; even
the 90's X-Men cartoon captured that well), so why be surprised
that they would ruin this one as well.
By the way, I am the only one who thought that Jean Grey's
"death" sucked big time in the "X-Men II" movie?
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
People don't want depth though.That's the problem with the X-Men and I've always said it. They have about 80 characters all with their own back stories and they try to delve into each one of them for the purposes of milking the cash cow rather than keeping a select few consistently throughout the years and making them best sellers through writing them well. Not bringing people back and killing them off.
The F4 have always been the F4 and always been great, regardless of writer.
Either way, that's why Surfer got cancelled. People don't want deep characters who philosophise. They want to see shit getting blown up and people fighting.
-AC
i agree... astonishing xmen seems to be making an effort, a small, consistent team...
Originally posted by King Burger
If true, then maybe they made the decision because they
thought that a male "angel" would be a little wierd for the
non-X-men fans in the audience. Angels are usually
portrayed in the media and arts as either chubby babies,
or women (ignoring the Bible ofcourse), so maybe they
figured that some people in the audience would be more
used to a female "angel" (even if "Angel" is only a name, and
not a real angel).Also, they may have figured that they need one more female
character, again for the sake of the audience, to appeal to
women more (common Hollywood logic: more females on
the screen=more females in the seats; ofcourse it rarely works
out that way, but they don't care).Besides, they already ruined the otherwise kick-a** Rogue
(one of the coolest female characters in all of comics; even
the 90's X-Men cartoon captured that well), so why be surprised
that they would ruin this one as well.By the way, I am the only one who thought that Jean Grey's
"death" sucked big time in the "X-Men II" movie?
her death as in her dying or how it was done?
Originally posted by pr1983
her death as in her dying or how it was done?
The way she dies. Stupid.
Why didn't she lift the plane from inside the damned plane?
And why block out Nightcrawler to prevent him from saving her?
Maybe it would've been better to have made the complex set
to detonate, then have Jean Grey somehow get stuck behind
and get buried in the explosion. True, it doesn't match the original
comic book version, which was very good, but I my opinion still
better than the drowning one used in the movie.
Originally posted by King Burger
The way she dies. Stupid.Why didn't she lift the plane from inside the damned plane?
And why block out Nightcrawler to prevent him from saving her?
Maybe it would've been better to have made the complex set
to detonate, then have Jean Grey somehow get stuck behind
and get buried in the explosion. True, it doesn't match the original
comic book version, which was very good, but I my opinion still
better than the drowning one used in the movie.
i'm inclined to agree... i didn't like that scene...
Well, the Marvel chars are made after a certain concept, they`re not just a bunch of people making the story look nice...
ex. Jean and Mystique were made women after the concept that women seem to read minds (they can guess ones intentions pretty well) and also adapt to different situations as if chaniging their shape.
Maybe there was a reason Angel was a man, after all...
But, I have to see the movie first. Say, where did it say Angel would be a woman in the first place??