Originally posted by Dusty
So, the guy has THREE albums out. So, now he's "Old"?I'm sure he's sorry for not being fresh enough out of the womb for you.
He's old news, yes. Especially since he's been around for almost 8 years.
Although I suspect InnerRise doesn't know him from that far back, he was unintentionally right.
Originally posted by Dusty
I'm sure we have some real masters of Hip Hop history and ethics participating in this thread. 🙄
Is that an implication that people, including me, do not know about hip hop?
I love great hip hop, which is why I don't like Kanye West. Like people who listen to Coldplay and think they like rock music.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Lowering in pitch does not a difference make.Either way, what he did was essentially a remix, so for him to claim it as his own song, not even to refer to it as Kanye West Vs Daft Punk, is extremely hypocritical. It just shows how much he lacks talent if he's making a career of other people.
Precisely, it was a cover. He didn't change the title or make it out to be "HIS", it's considered his by others because he completely changed it with the immense talent he had. He didn't sample Dylan and twist some knobs.
Hendrix didn't sample the exact song, he wrote and performed new parts to it that the original musician couldn't have dreamed of.
Kanye West didn't, and probably couldn't, hence why he's a sampler.
If that's how he makes his career, fine, but he shouldn't be going around complaining about "real shit", and should be giving Daft Punk more credit.
The video itself isn't even original, it's a massive rip off of Akira.
If people like him, cool, I just dislike the fact that people hail him as some creative genius, he's not. The Coldplay of hip hop; safe, nothing revolutionary, nothing amazingly talented.
-AC
Its considered to be "his" by a lot of people porque many of them don't even know who the original is by. I personally have an aversion to covers since the way they sound stray to far from the originals.
And when it comes to giving Daft Punk credit...Dusty already covered that.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
He's old news, yes. Especially since he's been around for almost 8 years.Although I suspect InnerRise doesn't know him from that far back, he was unintentionally right.
Is that an implication that people, including me, do not know about hip hop?
I love great hip hop, which is why I don't like Kanye West. Like people who listen to Coldplay and think they like rock music.
-AC
I don't like Kanye West because I don't like Chi-town rap. Why don't you specifically like Kanye West? What does him and that semi-feminine English band have in common?
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Its considered to be "his" by a lot of people porque many of them don't even know who the original is by. I personally have an aversion to covers since the way they sound stray to far from the originals.
It's also considered to be his by people who do know who it's by, and by Bob Dylan, because he did enough with it. Comparing it to Kanye remixing Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger is dumb.
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
And when it comes to giving Daft Punk credit...Dusty already covered that.
And so did I, it's bs.
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
I don't like Kanye West because I don't Chi-town rap. Why don't you specifically like Kanye West? What does him and that semi-feminine English band have in common?
The fact that they're just a safe, conservative middle ground for people who are afraid to go further, but far enough away from the "norm" to make it seem like these people are being adventurous by liking them.
Kanye isn't actually from Chicago either, by the way.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Kanye isn't actually from Chicago either, by the way.
Yes he is. He wasn't born there, but he's from there. Just like Tupac; he was born in Manhattan, but was from L.A. It's the city they claim, ey.
Going off that, Kanye's style is Chi-town, not Dirty South.
Originally posted by DARKLORDCAEDUS
Kayne just has one great song and thats Jesus Walks. Although he did sell a million some odd records this past week.
That's by far his best song.
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriYou might wanna check this out. if you haven't already
Hip hop wise?Wu-Tang Clan, Cannibal Ox, Cage, Cunninglynguists, Mr. Lif, MF Doom, Public Enemy, Redman, Common, Pharoahe Monch, Chino XL, Run DMC, E.P.M.D etc.
Lots of stuff. Not Kanye.
-AC
I've heard Flyentology by El-P, Rev. It's on his latest album.
Originally posted by Funkadelic
lol, I love how you said that.Off course, but that one is my favourite.
Anyway I kinda dig Kanye, I'm not pretending he's good or something, I guess he's my guilty pleasure.
I never understood why anybody has guilty pleasures. You like him, clearly, why does it matter what anybody else thinks?
-AC