Why humans are b*stards: Not for the faint hearted

Originally posted by Alfheim
Im really worried about China becoming a superpower. As somebody said..... youmight complain about America but if China becomes the next superpower you'll be begging for the good old days when America ran the roost.

Im not saying America is perfect but China just dont give a ****, they'll abuse your rights and lock you the **** up and not think twice. People keep trading with China but they shouldn't.

Sure they should. China will become the next superpower whether we trade with them or not, might just as well try to get as much influence in the country as we can before it gets there.

The old thing about not being able to look away from a car wreck...

So I've seen some PETA videos. And the stuff in them... I don't think there's a sufficient way to describe how incredibly fu'cked up it is.

I don't see how someone, with any semblance of compassion, can actually skin an animal alive. It's sickening. Aside from that I don't see the value in fur as a luxury item anyway, is there any reason whatsoever that an animal needs to be alive while being skinned?

In terms of some views I still think PETA are retarded. But I agree wholeheartedly on their opposition to practices as barbaric as this.

Originally posted by Fishy
Sure they should. China will become the next superpower whether we trade with them or not, might just as well try to get as much influence in the country as we can before it gets there.

Well I see China as a threat to freedom like terrorism. People may trade with them but they should also look for ways to protect themselves from them. If they get in power they will **** everybody up. In saying that I dont think they can keep freedom of speech at bay people are starting to fight back, eventually Communism will fall.

Anyway people dont have principles in the real world people are pragamtists. America is like China to a lesser degree, so as far as their concerned they have to put up with it.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Well I see China as a threat to freedom like terrorism. People may trade with them but they should also look for ways to protect themselves from them. If they get in power they will **** everybody up. In saying that I dont think they can keep freedom of speech at bay people are starting to fight back, eventually Communism will fall.

Anyway people dont have principles in the real world people are pragamtists. America is like China to a lesser degree, so as far as their concerned they have to put up with it.

And the only way to change China is to work with it... If we work against China they will just change more to anti-western standpoints, working with them starting company's there investing money in them and getting good trade agreements will only help us in the future because we will have a bigger impact on the Chinese market and become known allies so China will be less likely to **** with that then with lets say a country that has never done anything but annoy them and has no real power in their market.

Originally posted by Fishy
And the only way to change China is to work with it... If we work against China they will just change more to anti-western standpoints, working with them starting company's there investing money in them and getting good trade agreements will only help us in the future because we will have a bigger impact on the Chinese market and become known allies so China will be less likely to **** with that then with lets say a country that has never done anything but annoy them and has no real power in their market.

Good point, but I cant see them really changing. The fact of the matter is if they dont change were all ****ed. In saying that people are starting to revolt in China its only a matter of time.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Good point, but I cant see them really changing. The fact of the matter is if they dont change were all ****ed. In saying that people are starting to revolt in China its only a matter of time.

Oh China is changing, slowly but it's changing... Whether it's for the best or not is debatable but the country is definitely changing, and they are playing it smart by not changing to much at the same time..

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
I CANNOT ****ING BELEIVE THIS !

I JUST SAW PETA'S WEBSITE ABOUT THE ANIMAL SKINNINGS IN CHINA...OMG....THIS IS A HUMAN ABOMINATION !

THIS IS BEYOND CRUELTY, THIS IS EVIL THAT WE NOT ONLY ALLOW...BUT IGNORE AND PROFIT FROM......

NO NO NO NO NO ....THIS IS UTTERLY INHUMANE AND DISGUSTING THAT CHINA OR ANY FKN NATION WOULD ALLOW THE TORTURE OF LIVING CREATURES...

THAT FKN ****...THE MAN WHO STOOD THERE PEELING THE SKIN OFF OF A LIVE ANIMAL, HE DIDNT EVEN BOTHER TO KILL IT FIRST, AND EVERY TIME IT FLINCHED HE STABBED IT SO IT WOULD SHUT UP...

THIS A FKN ABOMINATION AND WE CANNOT ALLOW THIS. BOYCOTTING FURS SO FAR IS OUR BEST OPTION...THIS CANNOT BE ALLOWED TO CONTINUE.

THIS IS A HOLOCAUST FOR INNOCENT ANIMALS...I HOPE THOSE ****ERS WHO DID THOSE HORRIBLE THINGS TO THOSE POOR CREATURES GET EATEN ALIVE BY LIONS.

All I hear is ..."Boo hoo, I am a pussy little tree hugger and want to write in caps cause animals are cute...I like animals..except for fish..they don't even have a face...that's why I am a vegatarian..but I eat fish..cause they aren't cute..."

Oh and then there is that: "THIS IS A HOLOCAUST FOR INNOCENT ANIMALS...I HOPE THOSE ****ERS WHO DID THOSE HORRIBLE THINGS TO THOSE POOR CREATURES GET EATEN ALIVE BY LIONS."...don't you lv oe people that call for the destruction, torture and death of people because they brought destruction, torture and death onto others (animals in this case)?

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
I CANNOT ****ING BELEIVE THIS !

I JUST SAW PETA'S WEBSITE ABOUT THE ANIMAL SKINNINGS IN CHINA...OMG....THIS IS A HUMAN ABOMINATION !

THIS IS BEYOND CRUELTY, THIS IS EVIL THAT WE NOT ONLY ALLOW...BUT IGNORE AND PROFIT FROM......

NO NO NO NO NO ....THIS IS UTTERLY INHUMANE AND DISGUSTING THAT CHINA OR ANY FKN NATION WOULD ALLOW THE TORTURE OF LIVING CREATURES...

THAT FKN ****...THE MAN WHO STOOD THERE PEELING THE SKIN OFF OF A LIVE ANIMAL, HE DIDNT EVEN BOTHER TO KILL IT FIRST, AND EVERY TIME IT FLINCHED HE STABBED IT SO IT WOULD SHUT UP...

THIS A FKN ABOMINATION AND WE CANNOT ALLOW THIS. BOYCOTTING FURS SO FAR IS OUR BEST OPTION...THIS CANNOT BE ALLOWED TO CONTINUE.

THIS IS A HOLOCAUST FOR INNOCENT ANIMALS...I HOPE THOSE ****ERS WHO DID THOSE HORRIBLE THINGS TO THOSE POOR CREATURES GET EATEN ALIVE BY LIONS.

Whoa, chill out. China's been doing shit like that for years. Didn't seem to bother you before. Actually, didn't seem to have any impact whatsoever on human beings halfway around the planet.

Yea, it's cruel, but it's illegal here in the States to pull that shit and that's as far as you can go with it. China has different laws. They'd skill people alive if given the chance. I somehow think that wouldn't bother animal-rights lovers too much though.

Originally posted by Mr. Sandman
They'd skill people alive if given the chance. I somehow think that wouldn't bother animal-rights lovers too much though.

Thats what scares me about the Chinese. They just dont give a **** they'll stomp you out and they wont think twice about it. I dont think people realise how ruthless these Chinese are.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Thats what scares me about the Chinese. They just dont give a **** they'll stomp you out and they wont think twice about it. I dont think people realise how ruthless these Chinese are.

Chill out, dude. Stop making it out like China was the Anti Christ. That is bullshit.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Chill out, dude. Stop making it out like China was the Anti Christ. That is bullshit.

Well do you want to live in China? I dont think that Western countries are perfect but the fact of the matter is China is alot worse when it comes to abusing human rights and they dont seem to give a **** either.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Well do you want to live in China? I dont think that Western countries are perfect but the fact of the matter is China is alot worse when it comes to abusing human rights and they dont seem to give a **** either.

Of course they don't give a shit, like no other country gives a shit. The only reason some country's give a shit is to make sure that their population stays happy and other country's don't get all high and mighty but there isn't a government in existence that wouldn't be happy to start torturing people and kill them if they oppose the government.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Well do you want to live in China? I dont think that Western countries are perfect but the fact of the matter is China is alot worse when it comes to abusing human rights and they dont seem to give a **** either.

Not necessarily, but I wouldn't mind it either. I gues sif it was China or a Harlem I might take China. Of course a very ill informed choice..but I shall stand by it.

Originally posted by Fishy
Of course they don't give a shit, like no other country gives a shit. The only reason some country's give a shit is to make sure that their population stays happy and other country's don't get all high and mighty but there isn't a government in existence that wouldn't be happy to start torturing people and kill them if they oppose the government.

Yeah I know but China are worse, at least in the west you might stand a chance of defending you're rights.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Not necessarily, but I wouldn't mind it either. I gues sif it was China or a Harlem I might take China. Of course a very ill informed choice..but I shall stand by it.

Good point, lets just hope you dont get pissed off with their policies.

Originally posted by Bardock42
All I hear is ..."Boo hoo, I am a pussy little tree hugger and want to write in caps cause animals are cute...I like animals..except for fish..they don't even have a face...that's why I am a vegatarian..but I eat fish..cause they aren't cute..."

Oh and then there is that: "THIS IS A HOLOCAUST FOR INNOCENT ANIMALS...I HOPE THOSE ****ERS WHO DID THOSE HORRIBLE THINGS TO THOSE POOR CREATURES GET EATEN ALIVE BY LIONS."...don't you lv oe people that call for the destruction, torture and death of people because they brought destruction, torture and death onto others (animals in this case)?

Shut the f*ck up

This is not even funny....how can you have no sensitivity to the torture of an innocent life ?

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Shut the f*ck up

This is not even funny....how can you have no sensitivity to the torture of an innocent life ?

well he does kinda put it in perspective, although what they did is wrong it doesn't mean they deserve to get killed in a equally bad or perhaps even worse manner. Or that they deserve to get killed at all, it doesn't mean you shouldn't eat meat anymore or whatever either. It sucks but it happens.

Why the hell do they skin them ALIVE? i mean is there a reason (something to do with the whole turning fur into clothes thing?) or is it just for "fun"?

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
I CANNOT ****ING BELEIVE THIS !

I JUST SAW PETA'S WEBSITE ABOUT THE ANIMAL SKINNINGS IN CHINA...OMG....THIS IS A HUMAN ABOMINATION !

THIS IS BEYOND CRUELTY, THIS IS EVIL THAT WE NOT ONLY ALLOW...BUT IGNORE AND PROFIT FROM......

NO NO NO NO NO ....THIS IS UTTERLY INHUMANE AND DISGUSTING THAT CHINA OR ANY FKN NATION WOULD ALLOW THE TORTURE OF LIVING CREATURES...

THAT FKN ****...THE MAN WHO STOOD THERE PEELING THE SKIN OFF OF A LIVE ANIMAL, HE DIDNT EVEN BOTHER TO KILL IT FIRST, AND EVERY TIME IT FLINCHED HE STABBED IT SO IT WOULD SHUT UP...

THIS A FKN ABOMINATION AND WE CANNOT ALLOW THIS. BOYCOTTING FURS SO FAR IS OUR BEST OPTION...THIS CANNOT BE ALLOWED TO CONTINUE.

THIS IS A HOLOCAUST FOR INNOCENT ANIMALS...I HOPE THOSE ****ERS WHO DID THOSE HORRIBLE THINGS TO THOSE POOR CREATURES GET EATEN ALIVE BY LIONS.

What do you expect? China's a shithole.

So...what you're saying...is that we should asplode China?

Originally posted by lord xyz
Do you wear wool?

My friend, to my knowledge, sheep aren't being skinned alive to get the wool off their backs, so don't start down that road.