Excuse my below-par knowledge of Exar Kun but my reasoning is this:
1. There's no evidence as far as I know that Vader has/can combat offensive Sith Magic. Plus Kun did learn force lightning.
2. I feel like Vader tooled his fighting style to specifically counter surviving Jedi, by taking advantage of their predictability. It seems like when Shryne used unconventional tactic, Vader got hit twice, and then resorted to force abilities to win. I may be wrong here, but since Exar Kun's style is highly unpredictable and aggressive, I feel like Vader would be at a disadvantage. Especially since Kun could also use the double-blade function of his lightsaber, and he has also been known to use trakata techniques to get past his opponent's guard.
Originally posted by samappo
1. There's no evidence as far as I know that Vader has/can combat offensive Sith Magic. Plus Kun did learn force lightning.
Someone with a slight portion of Vader's knowledge was capable of summoning demons that perform Force Drain, Vader himself had a Sith amulet built into his suit, he has experience against Sorcery, and he's trained in the same methods as Tyranus. Tyranus being the same person who thinks of spells Sorzus Syn considered complex as "lesser arts".
Vader is more than capable of negating any Sith magic with his own vast plethora of knowledge and skill in said field.
With regards to lightning, Vader already has insolators in his suit to combat that, plus considerable Force defenses to counter that. Sure, powerful enough electricity can short-circuit his armor, but Kun lacks any lightning feats on par with Starkiller, much less Darth Sidious, both of whom needed prolongued bursts of lightning to overpower Vader's suit.
Originally posted by samappo
2. I feel like Vader tooled his fighting style to specifically counter surviving Jedi, by taking advantage of their predictability. It seems like when Shryne used unconventional tactic, Vader got hit twice, and then resorted to force abilities to win. I may be wrong here, but since Exar Kun's style is highly unpredictable and aggressive, I feel like Vader would be at a disadvantage. Especially since Kun could also use the double-blade function of his lightsaber, and he has also been known to use trakata techniques to get past his opponent's guard.
Jensaarai video as a source, huh? His fight against Roan Shryne was 19 BBY Vader, who was yet to fully adapt to his suit or develope his lightsaber form. This is more than 20 years before his prime, by which point he's definitely not going to be stopped just by "unpredictable" fighting methods. Besides being unorthodox, you're going to need to be more skilled, which I doubt Exar is.
Originally posted by Azronger
Kun, good fight
Finally, you say something worth agreeing with.
But yeah - Kun being greater than a "supremely" powerful Sith prodigy in Vitiate, whom, defied the mechanism of an omnipresent energy field in the Force by stripping it's presence from an entire planet and into his own, and had a thousand years to further master and increase his power, with his insane intrinsic aptitude and knowledge in the Force to aid, is a bit above and beyond Vader's pay grade.
Assuming I take the quote/accolade that puts Kun > Vitiate at face value, while ignoring you can't holistically factor someone that factually didn't exist at the time.
Originally posted by MythLord
Someone with a slight portion of Vader's knowledge was capable of summoning demons that perform Force Drain, Vader himself had a Sith amulet built into his suit, he has experience against Sorcery, and he's trained in the same methods as Tyranus. Tyranus being the same person who thinks of spells Sorzus Syn considered complex as "lesser arts".Vader is more than capable of negating any Sith magic with his own vast plethora of knowledge and skill in said field.
With regards to lightning, Vader already has insolators in his suit to combat that, plus considerable Force defenses to counter that. Sure, powerful enough electricity can short-circuit his armor, but Kun lacks any lightning feats on par with Starkiller, much less Darth Sidious, both of whom needed prolongued bursts of lightning to overpower Vader's suit.
Jensaarai video as a source, huh? His fight against Roan Shryne was 19 BBY Vader, who was yet to fully adapt to his suit or develope his lightsaber form. This is more than 20 years before his prime, by which point he's definitely not going to be stopped just by "unpredictable" fighting methods. Besides being unorthodox, you're going to need to be more skilled, which I doubt Exar is.
Ya know wollf, you could take it a little less aggressively, he did preface by saying he had a lacking knowledge of Kun. Meanwhile I can certainly debate Kun v Vader boi.
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Originally posted by MythLord
Someone with a slight portion of Vader's knowledge was capable of summoning demons that perform Force Drain, Vader himself had a Sith amulet built into his suit, he has experience against Sorcery, and he's trained in the same methods as Tyranus. Tyranus being the same person who thinks of spells Sorzus Syn considered complex as "lesser arts".Vader is more than capable of negating any Sith magic with his own vast plethora of knowledge and skill in said field.
With regards to lightning, Vader already has insolators in his suit to combat that, plus considerable Force defenses to counter that. Sure, powerful enough electricity can short-circuit his armor, but Kun lacks any lightning feats on par with Starkiller, much less Darth Sidious, both of whom needed prolongued bursts of lightning to overpower Vader's suit.
Jensaarai video as a source, huh? His fight against Roan Shryne was 19 BBY Vader, who was yet to fully adapt to his suit or develope his lightsaber form. This is more than 20 years before his prime, by which point he's definitely not going to be stopped just by "unpredictable" fighting methods. Besides being unorthodox, you're going to need to be more skilled, which I doubt Exar is.
Yeah, I haven't read a lot of the comics and shit regarding Vader, which I know really expand on his abilities. I concede there.
Can you prove that Sidious needed prolonged bursts of lightning though? Is it a direct statement or inferred?
Ehhhhh I remember watching the video a while ago, but forgot to remember that Vader was 4 weeks old into his suit.