villians in lotr

Started by shadowy_blue3 pages

I don't think Denethor is up there in league with Morgoth and Sauron. Sure he's not the best parent in the world, but he's not that evil either when it comes to his character overall. Actually, there's much more to the man's character to even allow us to sympathasize with him. He watched his beloved wife Finduilas waste away to an early death and has been reminded of her presence every moment her likeness (in Faramir) walks into the room. He's also lost his firstborn son, Boromir, who symbolizes the bravery and strength of the kingdom of Gondor. And, to top it all off, he's about to lose his throne--whether to the rightful king, Aragorn, or to Sauron in defeat.

Sauron indeed did a good job of twisting his mind to insanity, but it obviously wasn't Denethor's choice. If he was that evil, he wouldn't have experienced such grief when Boromir died. He shouldn't have cared that much.

If he was that evil, he should have been in league with Sauron, just like Saruman. He shouldn't have even bothered to defend Minas Tirith. If he was that evil, he should have sought for complete power and total domination. He should have ordered the killing of thousands of people already.

He was a villain to some extent just so we could have a variety of different characters with their own internal struggles, and also so that the LOTR books and movies could have some twist and more dramatic impact. But being a villain to some extent doesn't necessarily mean that you have to be totally evil. Denethor wasn't at all...he was just a psychologically and emotionally challenged character.

I can't believe that Saruman could be considered as more of a good guy than Denethor.

Denethor is no way a vilan....he is just a depresed old man who has had his most beloved things robed from him one by one....

s-b^wife son gondor...

Try to look at it from his point of view....
You are the head of a kingdom, your hapily maried and have 2 beutifull sons who love you very much and can't wait to grow up and fight and ride horsieys....as time goes on your wife dies an untimely death....that alone is enough to push a guy of the edge, you mourn her death...and are somewhat comforted that you still have your two sons with you...especialy your firstborn😍
your still upset about ur wife and start tinkering with your toys in the tower.....and it begins....you send ur first born, ur beloved, on a quest to bring this elvish weapon, isildur's bane...you tell him not to fail....not to let this thing to be handed over to elves...little do you know you are sending him to his death....YOU are now responsible...YOU have killed your son...YOU have now had two deaths in your family.......*more tinkering with palantir*......you find out this ranger....this stranger(hey that rymes) from the north has been found and people are saying he is the heir to the thrown....which would mean you would then be unemployed.....some time later your son has come back from battle 95% dead....a battle YOU sent him too...so once again....YOU are responsible....its seems like all you do goes wrong...and you don't care anymore....what is left anyway?....why go on....there is nothing for myself here...orcs are taking my city....i hate the world and they hate me...nothing can save me now....except...hmmm...yes, the thought had entered Your mind before...but you never realy thought you'd go thru with it....but now...now its a reality....you walk stagering to the tombs not caring how you look shouting out orders...ripping your clothes and hair...your son is brought to you and you hesitate....just for a moment and for the first time wonder if this is what you should do...the thought leaves you instantly....and what once was wisdom, now seems like folly...how could you go back, WHY would you want too....this world is full of death death death....and now death will take YOU and you will have peace once again....like you vaguly remember so long ago....

you can't take it anymore....your drenched in oil

in a flash of pain you are consumed by the fire and you tumble thru the air as life leaves you slowly, and you leave this world forever

(at least thats how i think I would feel if i was denathor)