yeah, I have been wondering where Janus went as well.
About the site where only people with a certain IQ are allowed in, not a bad idea, somebody should do that and then have it an invitation only site. Hmm... Oh well, I can't make websites so it will have to be somebody else.
About Revan winning, why? What would allow him to overcome Exar?
Why? Well you've read the thread, we were both debating in it...
Thats why... I think they are both very powerful and both evenly matched really. However I think Revan has a few advantages and Exar loses a few because Revan is familiar with some of his (double bladed lightsaber for instance).
And well although we have never seen the full power of Revan, or at least not for as far as we know he's impressive even as he is. I just think that somebody like that could beat Exar Kun. I don't really know why, I don't have any new points to offer here. This thread deals with them all, both why he would lose and why he would win.
And I don't know why but I just think Revan would win, I feel like a noob idiot for saying this, but its just what I think... Sorry I can't give any better reasons then what has already been posted but well I just can't 😛
yeah, you have a point, with the way the thread is now, nobody is likely to change their mind, everything has already been said.
But since I'm not sure if if I already said this: yes Revan was an amazing fighter, but he was more of a tactician, that would not help as much in a one on one fight. Exar on the other hand fought constantly, honing his skills.
On a side note, what do you guys think of the idea to create an invitation only site?
Originally posted by Revan Darkstar
yeah, you have a point, with the way the thread is now, nobody is likely to change their mind, everything has already been said.But since I'm not sure if if I already said this: yes Revan was an amazing fighter, but he was more of a tactician, that would not help as much in a one on one fight. Exar on the other hand fought constantly, honing his skills.
On a side note, what do you guys think of the idea to create an invitation only site?
Revan was just as much of a fighter as he was a tactician. He defeated every opponent he ever faced including many mandalorians, many Jedi, Mandalore, the strongest Echani warrior, hundreds of dark Jedi, dozens of Assassin droids, arguably the best bounty hunter of that time period, 3 tarentateks (when only one could easily defeat a regular Jedi) and two Sith lords (three if you count Bastila) and of course Juhani and Jolee at the same time with or without Bastila's help.
On your side note, I like the idea but I unfortunately can't create a website. 😮
Revan.
About that letting Bastila get to the bridge of his flagship, do you think Revan knew that Malak was going to fire on him? Do you think Revan knew he would get more powerful if he allowed himself to fall for awhile? Did Revan even allow Malak to sense his full power when he was his apprentice? If all these are true, then Revan is smarter than I originally thought, and I thought he was brilliant even before I thought of this! Like some ppl said, we have to wait until Kotor III comes out, to see Revan full power.
This is exactly why someone should create an invitations only site like we've been discussing, DarthMandalore is another one of those 1 sentence posters with either no reasons or wrong ones.
Firstly, Exar preserving his spirit wasn't that impressive since that's why those temples and Massassi race were there anyway. Secondly it wasn't 500 years, I will assume you simply had a typo there because of your commas but in either case your still wrong. It was about 4000 years later and no one even knew he existed until Luke came about. Now Kun convinced two Jedi to his cause and one rebelled on him. Woo hoo. It took only 12 barely trained padawans with two lightsabers total to wipe him out. It didn't take 4,000 years for him to be defeated, it took a few weeks.
Yeah - the determining factor with the spirit seems to be this:
They are in someone else's body. That body is only able to hold so much energy. Marka Ragnos was probably WAY more powerful when in his own immensely more potent figure because it didn't restrict him - he is probably only able to use so much power without destroying the host body. This seems fairly patent.
Although this might seem irrelevant, it seems like J.R. Tolkien and GL designed the idea of a powerful person using someone else's body as a parasite in similar ways. Voldemort, in the Harry Potter series, uses Quirrell to survive by taking part of his body. However, he is much weaker because he doesn't have complete control over Quirrell and Quirrell's body can't take his full power. He also mentions using snakes as host bodies, but they are much too weak to hold him for long. It seems similar wit h SW, as Kun and Ragnos are probably much weaker when inside another, less able, body.
For example, when Freedon Nadd beat Naga Sadow - that, I think, could never have happened if Nadd was fighting the actual Sadow.
These types of reasons are why postmortem foes in SW fights cannot be used when comparing the actual people in their prime.
This old thread?
"Doc, are you saying this thread is from 1985?"
Wish I had the picture to compliment that, but I am without my pics as I am at work.
I've changed my mind, having done that research on Exar Kun and reevaluating Revan. Also, my earlier source of Wikipedia was dubious at best then, and is worse now with all the revisions. Soooo...
Until KOTOR III tells me (Assuming it does) just how powerful Revan can be, I will assume Exar Kun was moreso, especially for these three reasons:
- He froze the entire Senate and murdered his former master in a short time. That whole scene where he barges into Coruscant to rescue his apprentice is simply nuts. Kun's power is immense.
- Revan has yet to make stars go boom.
- Exar Kun was declared by Ragnos to be the Dark lord in the Golden Era. I noted with a smirk that a few months ago I thought Ragnos was just some spook with no grip on reality, but reevaluating everything now, I think he was quite right. Exar Kun is, for sheer power and Force talent, superior to Revan, even if marginally. And again, right now we can't prove or disprove that.
Originally posted by Darth_Janus
This old thread?"Doc, are you saying this thread is from 1985?"
Wish I had the picture to compliment that, but I am without my pics as I am at work.I've changed my mind, having done that research on Exar Kun and reevaluating Revan. Also, my earlier source of Wikipedia was dubious at best then, and is worse now with all the revisions. Soooo...
Until KOTOR III tells me (Assuming it does) just how powerful Revan can be, I will assume Exar Kun was moreso, especially for these three reasons:
- He froze the entire Senate and murdered his former master in a short time. That whole scene where he barges into Coruscant to rescue his apprentice is simply nuts. Kun's power is immense.
- Revan has yet to make stars go boom.
- Exar Kun was declared by Ragnos to be the Dark lord in the Golden Era. I noted with a smirk that a few months ago I thought Ragnos was just some spook with no grip on reality, but reevaluating everything now, I think he was quite right. Exar Kun is, for sheer power and Force talent, superior to Revan, even if marginally. And again, right now we can't prove or disprove that.
Agreed, Revan was mainly tactics,which won't help him in a one on one fight with Kun, who has raw power on his side. After the Ancient Sith the strongest human Sith is probably Exar.
I'm not saying Revan wouldn't put up a fight that would make Ulic seem ordinary... Remember Revan has advanced battle precognition. So while the odds are slightly in Exar Kun's favor, it could go either way. And I am saying this simply because Exar Kun's amazing Force abilities are what boost him up, not his reputed saber skills. I mean, Tulak Hord is considered to be better than Kun by Kreia, who was probably in the academy when Kun was a Sith lord.