Who can Flash lose to? How?

The runner (elders of the universe) will catch him and beat the living cramp out of him since he is just as strong as the champion of the universe.

Originally posted by ebonyblade1
To answer the fist of the north's question:

Flash, would put up the kinda fight with superman that would look really good from a viewer perspective. Like the fight between Goku and Perfect Cell. When everyone was suprised that Goku stopped the fight. He knew he couldn't beat perfect cell. In fact cell was not even using his full strength. Flash will get his punches and may even hurt Supes a little. But superman will make like ali and use the old "rope a dope," which really is a psychological ploy which works against almost anyone. Most of wallys' major techniques will not work on supes, who unlike magneto has to get up close and personal to do any damage.

The Runner is so much faster than the flash its crazy, Runner did circles around SS who was going at lightspeed in space all the while making fun of SS's inferior speed .
But thats still crap. It takes an eternal to beat the guy.
Until Flash runs slower than the speed of thought, no one under superman is beating him.

I bet Mastermind could take him. But only in a situation where Flash didn't KO him within the first tenth of a second of the fight.

Exactly, an all out Flash hardly has a weakness unless the other has prep time.

There are plenty of above superman type people who can trump flash but under? i dont see any.

martian manhunter is extremely fast.
faster than white martians.

In a comic fight, Mastermind probably would win since heroes don't usually pop the villian in the nose for a quick knockout.

The infamous "infinity mass punch" is hoax.

It is never called an "infinity mass punch" in the comic. People just gave a name to the punch that he hit Zum with. If his mass were truly infinite, Flash would kill anything with such a punch, but not before he himself collapsed under his own gravitational pull, becoming a black hole.

Mass is constant. Inertial mass (resistance to acceleration,) increases as an object approaches lightspeed. Inertial mass decreases velocity and force, rather than increase it. The Flash's inertial mass does not increase, due to the speedforce. And even if it did, his actual mass would remain constant.

The attack Flash performed could more accurately be described as a high velocity punch, or "HVP". I highly doubt that it would knock out Superman, or any one with high-level superhuman durability.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
The infamous "infinity mass punch" is hoax.
Mass is constant. Inertial mass (resistance to acceleration,) increases as an object approaches lightspeed. Inertial mass decreases velocity and force, rather than increase it. The Flash's inertial mass does not increase, due to the speedforce. And even if it did, his actual mass would remain constant.

you should send this to DC and mail it.

and you know that going at light speed mean you have no mass

Flash cannot travel at light speed without entering the speedforce dimension. Essentially, he cannot run at lightspeed.

i wasn;t arguing with u lol

just pointing out that comics and science are too different.

like how do you explain superman's power etc.

Comic is oppisite of science most of the time.

but you are rite in terms of science

I am aware of this.

In the comic book, however, the punch is not named "the infinity mass" punch. The writers never say, "Flash's mass increases towards infinity." People on this board assumed that's what happened.

A false assumption.

I am merely proving that Flash never performed an infinity mass punch, but rather an extremely high velocity punch. An "infinity mass punch," moving at near lightspeed would kill anything.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
I am aware of this.

In the comic book, however, the punch is not named "the infinity mass" punch. The writers never say, "Flash's mass increases towards infinity." People on this board assumed that's what happened.

A false assumption.

I am merely proving that Flash never performed an infinity mass punch, but rather an extremely high velocity punch. An "infinity mass punch," moving at near lightspeed would kill anything.

A "high velocity punch" at the speeds Flash is capable of would kill almost anything anyways.

Originally posted by Khellendros
The hell? How is Thor going to beat the Flash?

Thor can create weather systems unlike anything Earth has ever seen..... he can cover the entire planet with storm winds travelling at thousands of miles per hour with rain that hits harder than bullets.... flash would have trouble with this weather even before he had to worry about how to knock out an Asgardian

Thor could also hit the earth with his hammer..the force could knock Wally into a car, a building or a tree or something.

people seem to forget thor is no slow poke.