Throw Out Everything You've Been Taught, Demons, Ghosts, Evil Spirits, And Angels.

Started by JediMusician6 pages

Technically, anyone who beleives in Christ is a Christian. So you could say that Jews and Muslims are Christian, they view him as a minor Prophet. And then you could further stretch this idea to include me as a Cristian. I beleive that Jesus Christ, son of Joseph and Mary, was an actual man who actually existed, even if he was no more than a good carpenter and a remarkably charismatic leader.

How'd you guys get so off topic.....????

Go back to the beginning of class and redo your homework class.

Interesting topic. To bad more people didn't stay on it.

Originally posted by debbiejo
How'd you guys get so off topic.....????

Go back to the beginning of class and redo your homework class.


Hey... why are you off topic !?

Re: Throw Out Everything You've Been Taught, Demons, Ghosts, Evil Spirits, And Angels.

Originally posted by debbiejo
We do know that there are freqencies that our five sinces can't pick up on. For instance there are colors we can't see that some animals can see and even insects, but they can be measured by scientific instrements.

There are certain sounds we cannot hear that animals can see that be measured.

There are vibrations that we can't since but animals and insects can pick up on.

There are even different tastes that we can't taste compared to some other spiecies.

SO..could it be possible that there are things that we can't see that are also there. Maybe things that our pets can pick up on that we can't?

Science is suspecting so. Science has determined that everything has a frequency in our world, plants, people, objects, planets..etc..What they are suggesting is like this..What if all of us and all that we perceive is called frequency A. We can only see, and since things in frequency A. But lets say that there is Also a frequency B, and all they can see and since is frequency B. Frequency A can't see people in frequency B and vise-versa. But what if there are people sensitive enough to occationally see or since frequency B and also sensitives in the other to since frequency A? What if both A and B occupied the same space as us and were just unaware of each other? How would that change your views about evil spirts, demons, ghosts, angels, and entities? We all know people that have seen, or heard things that dissapeared or that no one else could see or hear. Could these people be more sensitive to the unexplainable?
Science thinks maybe yes.

How would it change your life, if infact, this is how the universe really was operating? Infact there could other frequencies..who knows.

XD WOW nice way of putting it

I have seen one ghost, but i dont know if it was my imagination or not really...but maybe it wasnt O.o

I believe in demons, ghosts, and angles.....i dont know what entities are so i couldnt say 😄

What if what we call Heaven, or a place where the departed go?...Could they also be just as close to us, but in another frequency, so we cannot see them and them not us?...These things we call evil spirits, could they also be just passed on people that are in other frequencies...And like I've said, some people seem sensitive to be able to pick up on these things...Maybe there are no such things as what we perceive as "Heaven, demons and the such...but more like what we are at our essence,"....Interesting concepts....Maybe it's like "Same place, same location...different vibes."

well put debbie, i agree with that concept

Sounds very interesting,but is this actually a scienctific theory,with anything to back it up?i'd be very interesting in hearing more of this,sounds possible.

Well, It's part of the quantum Theory field..

I've been described by alot of my Christian friends as someone who is full of heresy, and yet may well be a voice of God. How does that work?

Because I was given the gift of interputation, no matter how offbeat, I can grasp it. I have an understanding of what is because I am not. I often feel very angery because alot of "prophets" and "philsophiers" feel at peace, they feel one with God. I don't have such feelings, and even with a room full of people. Feel all but alone. You could blame that on my mental status, but frankly, wouldn't someone who's nature go's deeper then that no better and be able to rise above such limitations?

I go to church with my friends because they're Christian, I was raised by differant Pagans. Mom is Wiccan, my grandmother was into Vodo, and I actually seem to have a very "Hindu" mindset. And though I interput God more like "The Force" as would be said by a jedi, I somehow find myself not only agreeing, but supporting thier pastor's teachings.. He intterputs things more litteraly ofcourse, God is good, God is watching, yaddayadda. But when confronted with the futile belief of athiesm (or a lack thereoff) he never knows what to say and feels threatend by them. I don't feel threatend, such ignorance and denial of what is obviously there is no sweat off my back..

Inorder to believe in God you have to believe in infinity. Infinite possibility, infinite life, death, trouble, endevure, change, thought, process..

Alot of people are afraid of such an idea. The notion that it DOESN'T end. There is no ultimate slapping of the hands and it's all over. You can try to argue that there is no life after death, that we just become void. But guess what comes after void? More void, and then more and more and more. It's infinite. God is everything. Deal with it.

Energy is infinite and cannot be destroyed...And I belief anyone can interpret or hear in ones minds eye what you call the Force...

Originally posted by debbiejo
Energy is infinite and cannot be destroyed...

And sense our soul is derived form energy, it's no big wonder why we're seen as immortal beings..
And I belief anyone can interpret or hear in ones minds eye what you call the Force...

True, it's a very generic concept that can easily fit into just about any frame of thought. But then that's why it kicks so much ass. 🙂

Besides, God isn't my biggest concern. He seems to know what He's doing, lol! People ask themselves if they're pleasing God or whatever, but what's the big worry? Take every example of death..

I pissed off God now I be in Hell:
That sucks I'm sure. But you have to wonder, what compassionate being would doom someone to torment forever? I could see why there is a devil if someone would be so malicous. My answer? Hell is a state of mind, the fire is your own emotion, and the pain is the seperation from God. Which comes not from Him rejecting you, but you rejecting Him and convicing yourself you're not good enough. Just as you concince yourself you're not good enough for your mother, or your job, or whatever.

Something Completely Differant Happens:
Then worry about it when it happens. Cause at the moment we can't even perceive it..

I reincarnated into a bug!
You don't have the brain-stem to even grasp complexity, trust me, you won't worry.

I reincarnated into another human!
You don't remember, how COULD you worry?

There is no life after death:
Then I guess you've got nothing to worry about do you?

I'm in Heaven:
Ohnoes?

As you can see, the worst case scenario is the athiest view. Which even if so, people should still be as morale as they can for the same reasons Buddhists are. It just makes life easier.. I don't know why people worry about such things so much, to think the most troublesome thing on my mind is if a girl likes me or not LOL..

http://www.spaceandmotion.com/metaphysics.htm

The church has changed what was once considered science and tossed into the "Other Evil Spirits" category....It has been scorned, belittled, and tossed in the box of "Silliness"....Though it is not...It is how the world/universe/everything does function and that was realized long ago.

The entire preoccupation of the physicist is with things that contain within themselves a principle of movement and rest. And to seek for this is to seek for the second kind of principle, that from which comes the beginning of the change. (Aristotle, Metaphysics, 340BC)

There must then be a principle of such a kind that its substance is activity.
... it is impossible that the primary existent, being eternal, should be destroyed.
... that among entities there must be some cause which moves and combines things.
... about its coming into being and its doings and about all its alterations we think that we have knowledge when we know the source of its movement. (Aristotle, Metaphysics, 340BC)

Time was, when she (Metaphysics) was the queen of all the sciences; and, if we take the will for the deed, she certainly deserves, so far as regards the high importance of her object-matter, this title of honour. Now, it is the fashion of the time to heap contempt and scorn upon her; and the matron mourns, forlorn and forsaken, like Hecuba .. her empire gradually broke up, and intestine wars introduced the reign of anarchy; while the sceptics, like nomadic tribes, who hate a permanent habitation and settled mode of living, attacked from time to time those who had organized themselves into civil communities. But their number was, very happily, small; and thus they could not entirely put a stop to the exertions of those who persisted in raising new edifices, although on no settled or uniform plan. (Immanuel Kant, Critique of Pure Reason, 1781)

When you die, if you are un-aware that you are dead, refuse to accept it, have a message to pass on, have unfinished buisness, guilty about committing suicide, or have a fear that you existence may end when you die then you stay earthbound as a ghost.
If you have accepted that you are dead, or become a ghost then make amends, then you go to 'The Netherworld' which is a very beautilful place. Pretty much everyone goes there, even bad people.

I don't believe in Heaven and Hell. I think that people like Hitler may go to a certain type of Hell, but not a place with fire or brimstone. I'm talking about a cold, dark, depressing place. But they do not recieve physical torture.

Our soul cannot be destroyed, it is energy, it is infinite. Nobody goes to a place where they suffer physical torment.

Originally posted by BlackC@t
Our soul cannot be destroyed, it is energy, it is infinite. Nobody goes to a place where they suffer physical torment.

Perhaps the physichal torment comes from us being able to manifest pain and pleasure on an extraplanar level. God does not punish us to such excrusiation, we punish ourselves, because we lived our lives in sin, and we filled our souls with dark energy that needs to be "drained". So untill the negative energy exhausts, we will know nothing but suffering.

But as I said, I always kindof thought like The Hindu so don't take it too personaly.. 🙂

Re: Throw Out Everything You've Been Taught, Demons, Ghosts, Evil Spirits, And Angels.

Originally posted by debbiejo
We do know that there are freqencies that our five sinces can't pick up on. For instance there are colors we can't see that some animals can see and even insects, but they can be measured by scientific instrements.

There are certain sounds we cannot hear that animals can see that be measured.

There are vibrations that we can't since but animals and insects can pick up on.

There are even different tastes that we can't taste compared to some other spiecies.

SO..could it be possible that there are things that we can't see that are also there. Maybe things that our pets can pick up on that we can't?

Science is suspecting so. Science has determined that everything has a frequency in our world, plants, people, objects, planets..etc..What they are suggesting is like this..What if all of us and all that we perceive is called frequency A. We can only see, and since things in frequency A. But lets say that there is Also a frequency B, and all they can see and since is frequency B. Frequency A can't see people in frequency B and vise-versa. But what if there are people sensitive enough to occationally see or since frequency B and also sensitives in the other to since frequency A? What if both A and B occupied the same space as us and were just unaware of each other? How would that change your views about evil spirts, demons, ghosts, angels, and entities? We all know people that have seen, or heard things that dissapeared or that no one else could see or hear. Could these people be more sensitive to the unexplainable?
Science thinks maybe yes.

How would it change your life, if infact, this is how the universe really was operating? Infact there could other frequencies..who knows.

Just to ask, have you heard of a cloaking device? Well they have the non-physical version of it.

Originally posted by Jury
Definitely NO. 🙂

Our Church do not paticipate in whatsoever related with the Catholic's pagan-origin Lent.

Lent isn´t the only Pagan origin taken over by the church.

I could write a novel about it here the catholic "cult" has so many paganisms in it.

here´s a link to some..

http://www.rapidnet.com/~jbeard/bdm/Cults/Catholicism/catholic.htm

Do ghosts exist

well let me no wat u think
if ghosts do exist y would they be here?ghost2

I dont thnk they exist.