Darth Revan vs. ROTS Dooku, TPM Obi-Wan, and Darth Maul

I was thinking about this quite some time, yet i still decided Revan would win. Yes, i know that it sounds incredibly unbelivable, but think about it. Revan was killing ppl like Maul and Dooku when he barged on the Star forge. If u went dark side, u had to defeat 3 dark masters, which i presume could confront Obi-wan Dooku and Maul. Revan killed them in no time. He defeated 2 Terentatek, which were considered Jedi hunters and are imune to Force(now go ahead and tell me, that Revan sucked with sabers). Besides that, Qui-Gon and Dooku both faced 2 sabers, and it wasnt too big of a problem, so i dont think 3 of them would make such a difference when we are talkin about Revan. Did he, or did he not defeat the 2 most powerfull sith on Korriban? Without any problems, i might add. Besides, ure talkin about all the strategys, remember, who was a master strategist? Yep. Revan. Im pretty sure he could oppose any strategy, considering he brought victory to Republic fleet when it was in disarrey and on the verge of extinction(not defeat, since they were losing all the time) and that was against Mandalorians, who are famous warriors.
Besides, Obi-wan is pretty weak in the Force in TPM, so i presume he would be choked first. Maul would probably be stormed and incapacitated for a minute, which gives Revan enough time to chop Dooku, and then to finish Maul.

Originally posted by Naga Sadow
I was thinking about this quite some time, yet i still decided Revan would win. Yes, i know that it sounds incredibly unbelivable,

Doesn't sound unbelievable at all, and good points

Dude don't bring a Jedi down to the level of Ninja. Yes Revan could have won but I can't see her being able to handle all three of them at one time it would be too hard for her to do. individually she can beat them. She can go around town beat maul at the beach, Obi-wan at a park and dooku at a gay bar, but if they all met up at a sex shop and she had to take on all three at once she would be defeated. Even Maul the 'weakest' of the three had to be a skilled jedi if the sith only have an apprentice and a master the master wants to make sure the apprentice can hold his own in a fight and mantain the legacy of the sith. This is one of those things where you have to look deep in your heart to find the truth. I know Revan is powerul and can beat many combinations of Jedi but not those three. I have even come to terms that she can probably beat the exile (who I love so much) but not the three stooges.

Okay so you agree that Revan can beat the Exile? Kreia who is weaker then the Exile and Revan defeats Four Jedi Masters with just one wave of her arm. Jedi Masters... The only one in that list, that could match one of those masters is Dooku... And I don't know if he can compare to any of those masters.

So why the hell would Revan not be able to defeat them? And this is the weakest argument I have made in this thread so far, but apparently normal logic doesn't really work.

Dude, why not those 3 together? They are completely different fighters. They have nothing in common, and it would be extremely hard for them to work together. Besides, Revan would only have to fight 2 serious opponents from the start, considering that every1 agrees Obi-wan would be choked right away. No way, that he could counter Revans choke, considering that at time of TPM he was Padawan, and pretty weak in the force. Maul and Dooku are great fighters, yes, but consider that Revan studied Tulak Hords holocron. A journal of the greates duelinst of ALL TIMES, a guy who was NEVER DEFEATED, although he had to confronst bunch of jedi masters and a lot of sith apprentices. Dooku and Maul were both defeated, one by Obi-wan other by Anakin, which both werent great duelers if u ask me, and a lot of others who dont worship the prohpecy and actually consider the facts. Maul wasnt known for the force mastery, he was a good saber combatant, which gives Revan, the heart of the force, an incredible advantage over him, meaning he could at least stun Maul, if not kill him right away. And then, while Maul incapacitated, Dooku is no problem for Revan. It kinda all winds up as i said be4. Obi choked, Maul incapacitated, Dooku defeated in duel, Maul not even close to Revan in any term. Revan wins.

Dude that's the same ABC logic I was trying to use on the other thread it doesn't always work out that way. And I said probaby beat the exile not definently beat him. And Obi-wan is a Jedi master also the only one who isn't is maul . Don't make the exile arguement by going down the who greater path look at what she's up against it ain't easy.

Obi is a Padawan, you can't possible mean to say that during his training by Qui Gon Obi was a Master.

And you were the one that said that they could win with a plan, and now you are saying plans like that won't work out? The simple fact is, the three won't work well together they will get in each others way and do different things, Revan can take them out one by one. Revan is more powerful in the force, has more experience and is more skilled with a lightsaber. The three don't stand a real chance...

Amen for Fishy

I didn't say the plan couldn't work what I was talking about that doesn't always work was that post where if the exile can beat nihilus and nihilus can beat revan the the exile can beat revan that's the abc thing I was refering to. And dude were not refering how well they like each other the argument is if the three of them were to attack revan at the same time who would fall, revan.

But all three couldn't do that... You don't seem to get it, but their style's are so incredibly different. One defends the other attacks like this and the other like that... Besides all that Revan would have to do is jump back and use the force on one of them.

Revan will have room to move, if he couldn't then yes an attack of all three at the same time would be hard to block but at that time Revan won't have to block, just jump back. Eventually one of the three will make a mistake Revan will kill him and then go and take out the other two... If he even waits for that, because a powerful lightning attack would surely knock Obi out. Possibly Maul as well.

Leaving two people at most for Revan to fight... Seriously they don't stand a real chance

Yeah dude but your predicting revan's moves who to say revan wouldn't slip up and a slip up by revan would be far more costly then one of them messing up because she doesn't have anybody to cover her back. And it's not like dooku can block force attack or any of them for that matter obi-wans style is based on defensive fighting even maul uses form three we see that in TPM when obi-wan and Qui-gon are making attack after attack on him and he has to defend himself. And whose to say that they wouldn't be able to back her into a corner it could happen or it couldn't we dont know for sure what specific moves they'll use in battle but based on the comics I read and playing kotor I would go with the three stooges in that battle.

1. Dude, Revan would NOT slip. Who are u assuming Revan to be? A lil kid?
2.Maul uses form VII
3. Obi wan an Qui-gon work well together since they are master and aprentice, they know each otehr as well as they know themselfs, and they both use same form, so no wonder they attack a bit more, althou i wouldnt say Maul defends all the time
4.There are severals way out of a corner if u are force sensitive, hence wall runs, force jumps....

yeah but with your 4th point you are assuming revasn does that. True the three stooges didn't train together but I'm not making my assumption (that is what we're doing here assuming one side will prevail) based on the three stooges winning I base it on my knowlege of Revans powers and abilities and on the three stooges powers and abilities. I'm not saying they will corner her because I don't know how the battle will play out exactly all I'm saying is the three stooges have abilities that if combined IN MY OPINION will be greater than revans alone. I don't know if he or she would slip up that's the point Fishy was trying to bring up I'm saying we don't know exactly how it would play out. I believe that the fight would go to the stooges.

hmmm, well, i think Revan could deal with anythin the stooges can throw at him. i mean the guys is one of the most resorcefull ppl in EU and also one of the most powerfull ones

What leads you to believe he's resourceful. At the hieght of his power he used the starforge which turned out unlimited amounts of resources. That's not being resource. I believe the three stooges would prevail but wouldn't leave without war wounds.crutchcrutchcrutch

well, some part of me thinking he is resorcefull is because he defeated the mandalorians almost without an army, defeated the sith by almost by himself, turned exeptional number of soldiers/jedi to his side...but thats probably not enough...

Dude Revan led an army. He had the help of the Republic agianst the Mandalorians then he had the help of the sith to wage his war against the republic. He didn't take down the sith almost by himself the republic force were also attaking the starforge and there were other Jedi that made it into the star forge that was two battles the sith had to face alone at the starforge. And turning soldiers and jedi to his side is not an example of resourceful it is an example of being manipulative. I'm sorry to argue down on resourceful. It's not my intentions, but I'm an english major and I get easily upset when people use words out of context. Resourceful has to do with being able to accomplish goals while using everything around you esp. if you have limited resources. Revan is manipulative but she had armies. Another word for her is strategic.

Nah, you forgot the fact that he managed to lure the Republic fleet in a trap even as he was taking his title back. Managed to destroy the Republic by fighting for them and weakening it so much that even Malak could take over. And managed to get the Jedi crazy enough to send Bastila to him, their only chance in the entire war going on the ship of the undefeated Dark Lord... He's not resourceful at all.

And Nolan you are heavily underestimating the power of one of the most powerful guys ever. He was powerful he was smart and he sure as hell knew how to fight. You are making it seem like Revan is some kind of idiot who would make mistakes, he isn't. He has fought to many opponents to make mistakes, he's smarter then that. And the three stooges as you call them are not capable of adjusting to something like that. They won't work well together they will die... To prove it i just started writing a story five minutes ago, it sucks but well who cares...

What leads you to believe he's resourceful. At the hieght of his power he used the starforge which turned out unlimited amounts of resources. That's not being resource.

That's the height of his army's power, not his personal power. Revan obliterated the Mandalorians (who live for war and physical conflict) before he found the Star Forge, with nothing more than the Republic Army; it's already been stated that the Republic would have crumbled were it not for Revan's leadership. Also, Revan's assault on the Republic left it stronger through his careful planning and strategy. That's what I call being resourceful.

well, some part of me thinking he is resorcefull is because he defeated the mandalorians almost without an army...

He had the Republic Army.

hehe, nice, cant w8 for it. also resourcefull...

Revans forces are small--->Revan gets soldiers and jedi to turn to his side---->Revans forces are big----Revan uses all available means to power up his army and win--->resourcefull.

Then, when fighting mandalorians, the republic army was almost completely defeated. There was no order, no strategy, lack of resources, yet Revan brings them victory. He must be resourcefull to do that.