Originally posted by Scoobless
ok, now that i've dropped Rogue i've gotReed Richards
Dr Strangefate
Martian Manhunter
Iron Man
Flash
Silver Surfer
King Thorand i'll add...... Kang the Conquerer as my eighth
ok...... NOW it's the Ultimate prep team
Manhunter and Strangefate switch Reed's mind into Flashes body
Tony gives Reed all the specs on all the IM armours......ever
Kang gives him the specs on everything he has including time slip and time travel technology
Reed whips up armour to enhance everyone's abilities while giving them all Thorbuster armour Strength minimum and cerebro style gear for Manhunter and Strangefate...... but multiplied a hundredfold with the use of time travel tech gathering
Surfer reinforces all the materials involved to their uppermost potential
Strangefate gives all the armours the maximum mystical protection available
Reed studies the Flash's connection to the "speed force" and is able to partially mimic the connection giving everyone mach 5 reaction speedReed whips up a mutant dampening field to take out Apoc as well but adds protection to it in Strangefates armour..... he also has mystical defences to it so it wont affect him
Reed also enhances Strangefate's armour along the lines of Iron Man's armour in "what if.... Tony Stark became Sorcerer Supreme" so that it amplifies the speed and power of all his incantations
the fight starts with Apoc being immediately dropped as a powerless threat.... he's taken out easily
Strangefate deals with Dormammu..... backed by King Thor...... the big D goes down hard..... everyone gangs up and b!tchslaps Thanos until he starts crying
EDIT: i may have gone over the top.......... you only wanted me to "beat" team Thanos......... not obliterate them......... 😄
No counter from me!
Great work!
Oh, and yes, if Apocalypse can grow to the size of Jupiter, he could technically grow pretty damn big. I don't think he could ever grow big enough to have the universe collapse on him because it's expanding damn fast (hundreds of thousands of miles a second) and he probably wouldn't catch up.That said, I'll admit that it's a dumb loophole in his powers...handy for trying to play devil's advocate in a versus thread (like I did) but not really practical (i.e. it will never happen in a comic). Unfortunately for us, comics are full of discontinuities and loopholes like that, leaving us fanboys to remove the bs from the quasi-realistic stuff. So it might be dumb, but it's a damn fine theoretical argument for Apocalypse fanboys.
So can Poccy grow large enough to create his own gravity field that attracts every planet in the galaxy, desroying entire star systems in the process?
The a$$ will be kicked Old School: Avengers & Friends.
For the big gun, I'll take Allfather Thor. The Avengers allstars will include Cap, Iron-Man, Quasar (gaurdian of the universe, after all), and Moondragon. Alog for the ride will come Cable, Doc Strange, and as ever, Adam Warlock. Plenty of grudges to keep the pathos filled epic dialogue flyin.
Prep? Most of the month will be filled by Warlock, Cable, and Strange unravelling the villains' mysterious plot while the Avengers jouney to Asgaurd to convince Thor to re-join them. When they appear for the final conflict, we get Thor in his head to toe Uru armor (from his battle with Jormungandr), Iron-Man in his magic-boosted armor from "Standoff," and the back or Cap's shield will now bear the inscription "Whomever shall lift this Shield, if he be worthy, shall possess the power of the American Dream."
Of course, Warlock will goad Thanos into overplaying his hand. Apocalypse and Cable will join eachother in seeming "death," but with no bodies. Strange spanks Dormammu, as always. Jim Starlin, eat your heart out.
Originally posted by Laminator_X
Cap's shield will now bear the inscription "Whomever shall lift this Shield, if he be worthy, shall possess the power of the American Dream."
lol..... Cap doesn't fit with the "American Dream" he isn't out for personal fame, fortune or happiness....... he isn't worthy to lift his own shield
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Yeah, but which would make for a better "Epic Thanos War" story? There's a certain form to these things.
Imagine a repeat of the Cap/Thanos facedown from IG, only this time, we get our first glimpse of the new runes in a closeup panel as Cap raps his shield against the ground. Next, bottom half of the page we see a surprised Thanos knocked backby the eruption of energy. Transformed, Cap crackles with lightning like a red white and blue super-sayan, and says something suitably Cap-like before punching Thanos in the jaw.
I almost brought Starfox instead of Quaze just for the dialog.
Originally posted by grey fox
oh come on saint of killers alone from my team could kill them all he woudl fire three shots and they all die
Ok...so if he can do that he is above Skyfather and isn't allowed on your team. Refer to Sentry's rules for this thread for further info....but anyone who could take a prepped Thanos out with one shot is well above Skyfather.
-DM
Originally posted by demigawd
So can Poccy grow large enough to create his own gravity field that attracts every planet in the galaxy, desroying entire star systems in the process?
Yes, technically....like I said, a bad loophole in his powers. The fact that he's never actually been this big might lead some to say that he can't do it or he would have by now, and others to say that it is just because if he did that he would win...and in comics the good guys (usually) need to win.
It's kind of a dead-end argument, and the only reason I sided with "he could do it" instead of "show me an issue number where he's the size of Jupiter" is because I was trying to beat your team. But giving his powers and the parameters set for them by Marvel, yes, Apocalypse could do this.
-DM
Originally posted by Scoobless
Apocalypse is all about survival of the fittest ......... if he could do that he would......... others may or may not survive but finding that out is all he cares abouthe can't do it............ where would he get the mass?
Where does he get his mass when he grows to the size of a small building or something??? I don't know...and I don't think Marvel has ever clearly answered that either. In any case, he's never done it, so I suppose one could confidently assume he can't.
But I remain by my statement...given his powers and specifications for them given by Marvel, he SHOULD be able to do it...and not even like Flash exploding someone...nowhere does DC say that he can do that.
...from Marvel's site...
Strength Level: Since Apocalypse can increase his strength by drawing on outside energy sources, his strength is potentially incalculable
Known Superhuman Powers: Apocalypse is a mutant who possesses superhuman strength which he can augment by psionically drawing on outside energy sources. Apocalypse can alter the atomic structure of his body at will in order to change his form. He can even increase his size by taking on additional mass from a presumably extra-dimensional source. Through his ability to alter his form, Apocalypse can give himself virtually any superhuman physical power. Apocalypse's "costume" is actually part of his body, and he can psionically alter its appearance at will. He can levitate himself telekinetically.
...hmmm alter his mass at will from an extra-dimensional source. Where in there does it say he has a limit? All I see is "potentially incalculable"
Well, it says his strength is potentially incalculable. That doesn't mean it's infinite - it just means that no one knows what the limit is yet. That could be because it's really, really high, or it could be because it's never been tested - Poccy doesn't have very many strength feats.
It doesn't, however, apply "incalcuable" to his size, just his strength. All it says is that "He can even increase his size by taking on additional mass from a presumably extra-dimensional source". No information about a limit or lack of limit.
Just because Poccy writers are too crappy too define his powers doesn't mean that his powers are limitless, lol.
Originally posted by demigawd
Well, it says his strength is potentially incalculable. That doesn't mean it's infinite - it just means that no one knows what the limit is yet. That could be because it's really, really high, or it could be because it's never been tested - Poccy doesn't have very many strength feats.It doesn't, however, apply "incalcuable" to his size, just his strength. All it says is that "He can even increase his size by taking on additional mass from a presumably extra-dimensional source". No information about a limit or lack of limit.
Just because Poccy writers are too crappy too define his powers doesn't mean that his powers are limitless, lol.
he whouldn't go AHHHHHHHH , when the X-men attacked his ass.
All good points. But these can be attributed to bad writing (both with his power limits and actual battles in comic books) and the need for the good guys to win (it'd be a bit of a downer if Earth collapsed into Apocalypse).
Once again, I realize it's a stupid loophole....but it's a loophole nonetheless. But with no limit set for his growth, it's equally as ridiculous for me to suggest that he can grow to the size of Jupiter as it is for anyone else to say he can't do it. We just don't know.
-DM