Gladiator vs. Juggernaut

Started by h1a83 pages

Glads wins by bfr.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
Gladiator got stalemated by this version of thor, who fought juggernaut

Juggernaut Wins, Spite

Not true.

Gladiator was stalemated by Masterson Thor who is > Thunderstrike.

sans bfr juggs wrecks him.

Gladiator had a hard time trying to beat up Captain America's shield, Juggy will be harder to beat.

with bfr Gladiator. w/o bfr juggernaut.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=295133&pagenumber=11

Originally posted by kgkg
Gladiator moves planets, rips stars

jugs lifts trucks , and houses big difference in power.

You think the height of his strength is being able to lift trucks and houses?

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Not true.

Gladiator was stalemated by Masterson Thor who is > Thunderstrike.

I thought Thunderstrike was Masterson Thor but just under a different name?

Did Masterson get a power downgrade when becoming Thunderstrike? If so, then how do we know (comic explained it?)

Thunderstrike and Masterson are two different beings.

By the way...Gladiator was ripping through Masterson.

Stalemate. Gladiator doesn't have any attacks which could harm Juggs, and Juggs isn't fast enough to tag Gladiator. Juggernaut's enchantments allow him to retain his momentum and be untouchable, which make it impossible to bfr him by physical means.

Originally posted by h1a8
I thought Thunderstrike was Masterson Thor but just under a different name?

Did Masterson get a power downgrade when becoming Thunderstrike? If so, then how do we know (comic explained it?)

Masterson Thor had Mjölnir and was pretty much Thor. Thunderstrike had a far inferior hammer made just for him and was nowhere near Thor's power class.

Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
Masterson Thor had Mjölnir and was pretty much Thor. Thunderstrike had a far inferior hammer made just for him and was nowhere near Thor's power class.

What evidence in the comic that Odin made him a hammer more inferior? Even if that is the case then that has no bearing on his power (strength level, etc.).

Remember the comic has to explicitly explain that he was weaker than Masterson Thor. Otherwise, we are using speculation against the writer's intentions.

Originally posted by h1a8
What evidence in the comic that Odin made him a hammer more inferior? Even if that is the case then that has no bearing on his power (strength level, etc.).

Remember the comic has to explicitly explain that he was weaker than Masterson Thor. Otherwise, we are using speculation against the writer's intentions.

Because the mace he got, Thunderstrike, his namesake, is decidedly inferior to Mjolnir? Eric also mentioned several times that as Thunderstrike, he wasn't as powerful as he was when he was "the real deal".

Statements, feats, and portrayals all point to Thor > Masterson Thor > Thunderstrike.

Without bfr Gladiator gets easily destroyed.

Originally posted by kgkg
Gladiator moves planets, rips stars

jugs lifts trucks , and houses big difference in power.

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Originally posted by nwg202
with bfr Gladiator. w/o bfr juggernaut.

This is the answer.

Originally posted by h1a8
Glads wins by bfr.

that is the only way glads can win is by BFR.

if Gladiator met Juggernaut for the first time, and they fought Juggernaut would likely kill him. My reasoning is this. When Gladiator hits Cain with his best, and sees it does squat to him, his whole ego bubble would go to hell, leaving him open for the big bully beat down. Gladiator's biggest weapon is his confidence.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Because the mace he got, Thunderstrike, his namesake, is decidedly inferior to Mjolnir? Eric also mentioned several times that as Thunderstrike, he wasn't as powerful as he was when he was "the real deal".

Statements, feats, and portrayals all point to Thor > Masterson Thor > Thunderstrike.

Ok if Eric said he wasn't as powerful (power wise and not knowledge wise) then I can accept that.

But I wasn't really concerned with the mace being inferior to Mjolnir but rather Eric's power/strength level as Thunderstrike vs. when he was Thor.

But are you sure he meant that (strength being weaker)?

You have any issue numbers or scans (I do believe you I just want to make sure of the context).

Originally posted by h1a8
Ok if Eric said he wasn't as powerful (power wise and not knowledge wise) then I can accept that.

But I wasn't really concerned with the mace being inferior to Mjolnir but rather Eric's power/strength level as Thunderstrike vs. when he was Thor.

But are you sure he meant that (strength being weaker)?

You have any issue numbers or scans (I do believe you I just want to make sure of the context).

His whole power set was weaker..

Masterson Thor actually had Mjolnir and the power of Thor, but just did not have the knowledge to use it as effectively as Thor can.

Thuderstrikes power came from his maze which was a second rate Mjolnir (if that)..
Thunderstrike is to Thor what Superboy is to Superman (if that)..

He could not even take Hydroman. Spiderman actually commented Thunderstrike was out of his league with Hydroman.