Any new, old Metallica fans..?

Originally posted by Deathblow
Selling out...that phrase is so often used by stupid kids just because a band they like changes their sound.

From past experiences, you can only draw but so many conclusions when I band flips the script out of no where, and they really don't have a reason other than "experimenting", etc. Bands don't come right out and say that they aren't feeling such and such a style anymore, or make their motivations real clear. Why they don't necessarily "owe it" to people, it would be nice to know what's going on in their heads. That's all. I'm pretty well versed in the music industry, and older, so I'd like to think, and I still held the same opinion until I got a better idea/explanation. It's too bad it took this long to get the story straight, could have saved me from spewing a lot of ill will.

Originally posted by Darth Revan
I watched most of Some Kind of Monster last night, and I have to say it changed my mind too. And now I kinda feel sorry for them... And Dave Mustaine... 😬

I dont feel sorry for Dave, he is a good musician but what happened back in 1982 was his own doing and he has to accept that instead of taking it out on Lars & James by making sh!tty little immature comments to make him seem like a hardass, and then he has the cheek to turn round and ask for sympathy??

the guy has issues...

...And Justice for All was an excellent album.

And let me just sum up the follow-up album by mentioning when you get to track #2, Sad But True, well, that pretty much explains itself.

All megabands go through artistic low points. Maybe St Anger was Metallicas. No band can be expected to produce classic album after classic album, even Led Zep didn't do that. Metallica will find form again and I await their next album with much anticipation and faith.

I'm still a fan. I don't like St. Anger though.

It's wierd, everyone says Metallica totally sold out on St.Anger. How? It certainly didn't sound like it had high production values. I prefer the cleaner cuts of the black album, where it sounded polished. I couldn't give a flying f**k how much was spent on it, or how much they were paid, I just liked the clean sound of traditonal Metallica stuff.

St Anger sounded like it was recorded in a garbage can. Too drony and lacked that crisp Metallica crunch I was used to.

Metallica are cool though, I'll never think they are sellouts.

For Metallica to produce such high quality stuff for so long, and then have a slight mishap with their latest album, is no reason for everyone to jump on them, forgetting all of the GOOD stuff they have done.

They are only human. St Anger is the only album I haven't liked. Now consider how many albums they've done before that. One bad album out of tons is amazing. And people who say everything after the black album is crap, well I just disagree. I have only ever though St Anger was a mere "dip" in standards. They can still redeem themselves.

Their good stuff is still there, they can still play it. They rock.

Selling out is plain and simple, don't know why it's so misunderstood.

If you sacrifice your integrity or morals to do something you didn't really wanna do, in exchange for exposure or money, that's selling out. Well, one offs CAN be overlooked. When it happens continuously, that's it.

They didn't sacrifice their morals or integrity. They changed.

-AC

I would also like to remind you all you that your judging this on one album out of what eight studio albums..?

Hello, get over it people...

i've loved Metallica for as far back as i can rememeber and nothing can change that, not even St Anger

Originally posted by Korri
I would also like to remind you all you that your judging this on one album out of what eight studio albums..?

Hello, get over it people...

No shit...

More like every album after ...And Justice For All.

In your opinion....maybe??

but i dont give jack sh!t about your opinion my friend...

In my opinion, everything since the black album has been off. But like I've said before, five fantastic albums is enough to redeem any band.

Especially since they haven't really done anything wrong.

-AC

Exactly, they have the potential to make good music, they did in the past and in my opinion they still do and will do in the future..

Don't expect another Master of Puppets and you'll be just fine.

Then...if they do manage it, you'll be more than pleasantly surprised.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Don't expect another Master of Puppets and you'll be just fine.

Then...if they do manage it, you'll be more than pleasantly surprised.

-AC

you should write the metallica bible Mr. AC, really you should droolio

I wrote THE bible you know.

-AC

Oh yeah, it makes sense..

Originally posted by Korri
Exactly, they have the potential to make good music, they did in the past and in my opinion they still do and will do in the future..

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Don't expect another Master of Puppets and you'll be just fine.

Then...if they do manage it, you'll be more than pleasantly surprised.

-AC

✅ indeed. The reason so many people dislike their new stuff is because they ARE expecting another Master of Puppets. While I love that album (definitely my favorite Metallica album), I'm not comparing everything else they've released to it, so therefore I'm not completely disappointed in everything they've done since. If they ever release another album of that quality, it'll be ****ing awesome, but I'm not going to sit here and wait for it to happen, and b!tch and whine that their new stuff sucks and they sold out.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Especially since they haven't really done anything wrong.

-AC

Pssssh. IYO. It's normal for bands to lose their touch after a while, in fact it's common. You seem to think that everyone else is wrong by thinking Metallica have turned crappy, but the reason it's such a popular reason is because, well, they have. And I never go into albums hoping for a repeat of past successes, in fact I set my standards as low as possible when listening to new material from bands I really like in order to avoid disappointment as much as possible should the worst happen (and it has i.e. Trompe Le Monde, Machina, End Of Heartache). Despite this, the last 20 years of Metallica stuff has consistently disappointed me to the point I dread new albums. Believe me, I'd love to support Metallica now, they've been very important to me in the past, but if the music doesn't interest me, I can't.