Gladiator Vs. Cannonball

Wait, the X-Men left...without Cannonball. What's up with that? Isn't he an X-Men too? Oh wait, Gladiator explained it: "stand back child." 🤣

As for trying to kill Cannonball, well does this sound like a killer: "To send a youth into danger would be a lack of honor."

And: "For if your six comrades are not successful...the Shi'Ar Empire will fall...and the rest of the universe will follow."

Yeah, sounds like Gladiator killing Cannonball was more important then saving his empire and possibly the universe.

Guess what? "Six against the Galaxy" is the next issue. Guess what would've happened if Gladiator really tried to kill Cannonball?

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hmm what comic was this? I'm kinda interested in reading the series now

Originally posted by JWangSDC
hmm what comic was this? I'm kinda interested in reading the series now

Uncanny X-Men #341

why couldn't gladiator fight phalanx?

Also canonball did "beat" gladiator. You need to keep in mind that winning for Canonball meant he stayed alive long enough for his friends to get there. It was supposed to be gladiators most powerful blow...no physical force is gonna hurt canonball when he can absorb all it's kinetic energy. It was a technicality type of thing

Originally posted by JWangSDC
Also canonball did "beat" gladiator. You need to keep in mind that winning for Canonball meant he stayed alive long enough for his friends to get there. It was supposed to be gladiators most powerful blow...no physical force is gonna hurt canonball when he can absorb all it's kinetic energy. It was a technicality type of thing

He lands one punch and he wins? Gladiator wasn't even there to kill him. If you call that a win, then Gladiator won after he knocked Cannonball flying. And are you saying that he tried to kill Cannonball? I highly doubt it was his most powerful blow or that he was trying to kill the X-Men. His Empire is in danger; he needs the X-Men's help - and he's going to kill one of them?

If the X-Men didn't show up, Gladiator would've gotten up and frozen Cannonball with his ice breath. This temperarily held Wonder Man, who broke free only to have Kallark K.O. him. Cannonball ain't in Wonder Man's strength. Thor-girl had a water tower dropped on her and frozen by Gladiator. It took her a while to break free; she's stronger than Sam as well.

And can Cannonball absorb Heat Vision?

JWangSDC why couldn't gladiator fight phalanx?

Don't have the rest of the issues that followed.

my favourite part is where Sam grabs Gladiator by the cuff and it actually makes the sound *GRAB*........ lol

(part 3-1)

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haha no one is arguing that gladiator is infinitely more powerful than canonball...but in this issue canonball "kinda" wins. I mean he uses his secret tactic to take Gladiators blow...then messes with his confidence so he can attack him. That's a win.

You must understand that the fight ended there...so it's a win. IF it continued, gladiator would have likely destroyed Canonball. It's like when the FF beat Galactus...whatever you want to say, it's still true. The FF beat galactus. Does this mean the FF is more powerful than Galactus? I think not,.

Originally posted by Beyonder
He lands one punch and he wins? Gladiator wasn't even there to kill him. If you call that a win, then Gladiator won after he knocked Cannonball flying. And are you saying that he tried to kill Cannonball? I highly doubt it was his most powerful blow or that he was trying to kill the X-Men. His Empire is in danger; he needs the X-Men's help - and he's going to kill one of them?

If the X-Men didn't show up, Gladiator would've gotten up and frozen Cannonball with his ice breath. This temperarily held Wonder Man, who broke free only to have Kallark K.O. him. Cannonball ain't in Wonder Man's strength. Thor-girl had a water tower dropped on her and frozen by Gladiator. It took her a while to break free; she's stronger than Sam as well.

And can Cannonball absorb Heat Vision?

Don't have the rest of the issues that followed.

Good battle...brings back lots of memories.

Not sure what you tried to prove here, though. The fact remains that Gladiator tried to kill Cannonball...and failed to do so. We already concluded that Gladitator didn't START off the fight trying to kill Cannonball, but that sure is how he finished.

I say Cannonball won that encounter not JUST because of that final blow (though that was the cleanest shot of the entire fight), but because he reversed and countered everything Gladiator did the whole time. He landed the best, cleanest shots.

Like I said - I don't necessarily think Cannonball could win a rematch, but this is clearly a victory in his favor, and I think a pretty realistic one too, given HOW it happened.

The more interesting question is, if Cannonball was able to withstand Gladiator's most powerful blow (I don't buy it being hyperbole...why would Gladiator exaggerate in that context?), his abilities, when fully developed, should basically make him immune to all physical attacks. Including those of Gladiator.

Isn't Cannonball an External? He wins IMO.

I think the whole External thing got retconned. Something about copyright infringement with highlander or somesuch.

the mutants are too pwoerful. SHowing glimpses of omnipotence from time to time

I saw the comic, man.
Gladiator wasn't trying to do nothing to Cannonball.
He was trying to draw the X-men out.
If he wanted to do something, cannonball could hit him at full power all day and it would do nothing to him.
Gladiator could have killed him by thumping him hard, for god's sake.

We all saw the comic, man. It's posted above.

Gladiator could have killed him by thumping him hard, for god's sake.

Tried that already. Didn't really work out for him, did it?

Originally posted by demigawd
We all saw the comic, man. It's posted above.

Tried that already. Didn't really work out for him, did it?

😆 More of your nonesense huh? Man Sam took that Heatvision like noth...out wait he didn't. 🙄 Gladiator wasn't pulling out his other powers.

Ain't my fault your hero's an idiot and didn't think to do anything but be a brick. He tried to kill Sam by punching him...it didn't work, his little complex reared its ugly head again, and he got punked for it.

That is all.

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