Originally posted by Milosz006
The OT Yoda was amazing, it looked real. Real as in you'd almost believe he was an actual being from another planet and GL just told the world he was a muppet. As for the OT Yoda being expressionless, that is a bold-faced lie. The real being that played Yoda in the OT will hunt you down and eat your spleen, all while wearing a bemused smile.The PT CG Yoda eats donkey balls, not spleens. Puppets always look realer because they are real.
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Anyone that even disputes puppet Yoda - go watch Return Of The Jedi right now.
I was watching Jedi yesterday, and because I have been on this forum, looking at all these pics of CGI Yoda from Episode III, ROTJ Yoda absolutely blew me away.
I had gotten used to CGI Yoda for a while, but when I saw the puppet again I thought "Holy shit that looks amazing". There is no substitute.
The way his ears bend like real ears when he lies in bed, the way he moves, with realistic twitches, it all looks so life-like. He truly is a creature, on set, talking to Luke Skywalker.
Please just go and watch Return of The Jedi again, Yoda really does look fantastic comparred to the prequels.
Originally posted by SithSpy
easily....the puppets awesome, but if you look at what the character had to do in the PT then you can see why they had to go CG, it would have been more than obvious if puppet yoda walked in and then CG yoda dueled Dooku
Yeah but a part of me thinks that Lucas only made Yoda do all those flips BECAUSE he was CGI, and BECAUSE HE COULD.
Besides, I think they screwed that fight up completely anyway. Obi-Wan vs Dooku was pathetic, Anakin vs Dooku was nothing more than a sissy dance that looked way too choreographed, and Yoda vs Dooku was a waste of screen time (and Dooku at one point isnt even fighting in Yodas direction).
We didn't need CGI Yoda until Ep III really, for when he fights Sidious. He shouldn't have even have fought Dooku, Mace shoulda fought Dooku instead, in order to buff him up and add chemistry between the two ex-friends.
What I'm saying is, there's a place for both CGI and puppet Yoda.
Puppet Yoda shoud have been used for any scenes where he ISN'T moving, or doesn't need to be fully on screen, or when he's sat down.
CGI Yoda should have only have been used when needed - because as great as he looks, he just doesn't stand up to scrutiny as well as the puppet.
ok, i know i will TOTALLY get ripped on for bringing this up, but could the way CG Yoda looked be an adaptation for PC-ness? I'm Asian and when I watched the original trilogies, Yoda resembled the stereotypical "Chinese or Japanese sage", at least his face did. He almost looked like a Mr. Miyagi or that old chinese dude in Big Trouble in Little China. Crap, I have old uncles with that kind of face...seriously. The wrinkles, the wider region between the nose and upper lips, even the eyes resembled like a kung-fu master/sage. This was in the 70s and 80s when cheesy kung-fu films were introduced to the US so could Lucas have been influenced by what he's seen in them? Sh*t, even the way he talked sounded like the way some stereotypical master would say to his students. And now we're in the 21st century, it would probably be wiser to make aliens look, well...more "alien-ish"...more green, rather than gray, for the sake of PCness.
Please don't start calling me discriminatory or whatnot for bringing this up. I just thought it would raise a few discussions.
Peace
Originally posted by darthmaul1
If you guys don't like the new Yoda, let me ask you this do you own episode II and are you going to see episode III?
In my opinion they are both fantastic.
you people must be on glue to not like the CG yoda.
Darth Maul doesn't seem to understand other people's opinions, and if they disagree with them he tends to get frustrated and angry. He needs to chill.
darthmaul 1 - DUDE! Did you even read my post? I said there's a time and place for CGI - when it is NEEDED.
We don't need a CGI Yoda for his sitting down scenes, just like there's no need for an all-CGI Clone Army. It just still isn't good enough. The best film-makers tend to use CGI only when absolutely necessary. Take Terminator and Jurassic Park for instance.
And SpyCSpider - I also agree. Yoda was so lovable - he reminded me a little of Pai Mei from Kill Bill and all those typical wise old masters from Samurai movies. Yoda even had a very strict side to him in the OT, which he seems to have lost in the PT. He has a very oriental side to him in the OT. Even when he turns from crazy-Yoda into wise old sage Yoda, he's still cracking jokes and reminding us that he still rocks. Even on his death bed he could bring a smile to everyones faces ("when 900 years old you reach....."😉. He would often chuckle and still be a very likable, sympathetic character.
The PT Yoda, in general, not just in looks, but character too, is just, well, NOT Yoda. He's all serious, and has standoffs like an american gunslinger. Where's the witty puns and memorable lines? The light-hearted Yoda is what we want to see, the kind of Yoda that inspires motivation. In the PT all he does is mope around and worry, that ain't Yoda. Yoda was the kind of guy you could rely on to turn any frown upside down, not make it worse.
OT Yoda: "Try not, do, or do not, there is no try" - Awesome OT line
What's Yodas most memorable PT line?
AOTC Yoda: "Around the survivors, a perimeter create" - WTH?
I wouldn't mind about the CGI in all honesty, if the character itself wasn't such a blatent characature of his OT self (see his dialogue in the PT comparred to the OT for proof of this). We need balance.
Sometimes...."less is MORE"....the less Yoda does, the more mysterious and awe-inspiring he is. When I watched CG Yoda, granted I was amazed at his martial arts abilities against Dooku, I was kind of disappointed that he turned "less sage, more power ranger." The Kung-fu pose?? That was totally used for a younger audience. It was cheesy and killed my respect for his image. A master Jedi shouldnt' have to look aggressive....especially towards his former pupils. Sh*t, Dooku looked more reserved than Yoda in that scene.
AND there were DEFINITELY times in the OT that YOda talked in "subject then predicate" form. He did NOT always switch the order and talk in typical Yoda mannerism. Lines such as "around the survivors, a perimeter create" are OVERKILL to his character. It's one thing to switch the noun and verb order if it's some wise proverbial line, but c'mon, nobody shouts an order like that during the heat of battle.