thanks whirlysplat for the kind words but it was a couple of things you got wrong. Hyperion in that universe is 10 times as powerful as superman. Lets say if the characters from the alternate universe where weaker than the ones from mainstream (which youre guessing, you really dont know), that is still a huge feet for a single man to pull. Current superman is now bleeding out of the mouth, nose, eyes, and get scratched up, stabbed by ral ul, handled by batman, knocked out by captain marvel,keep a black eye, i can keep going if you want me to. im going to give you a bio on holocaust so you would know what superman is against because the guy is totally indestructible, the only person that could do that to him would be hyperion because he is uber powerful. You were right about the humans knucking him but what does that have to do with the cosmic hero and villians, they were also destroyed by his hands, including galactus. Hyperion dont live on earth, hes and eternal, a cosmic being. when he fought gladiator he wasnt at his complete power, ( read bio on him please) but alternate timeline has complete control over his powers. And the fight with holocaust and exodus, do you know who exodus is, imo exodus would destroy superman, that was a bad argument.
Theres no force that could break thru that shell of holocaust, not apocalypse, xmen, magneto, shaw, no one and not superman. Hyperion is alot more powerful than superman, keep hyperion out of the battle because if both of them were to team up and fight hyperion he would literally kill them with ease.
Hope no hard feeling whirlyspat, just debating a arguement on the power display that i have witness and ill be back with a bio for holocaust powers.