Revan & Sidious v.s. NJO Luke & Yoda

Started by FreshestSlice4 pages

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Lmao this is great.

You guys are being trolled so hard, and are still walking into it every single time.

Like you always do.


I still talk to PT, so why not BW?

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Lmao this is great.

You guys are being trolled so hard, and are still walking into it every single time.

Like you always do.

No, really???

I thought this was super srs hour.

Just to be clear, I am very serious with my posts.

I know that some of you are likely interpreting some of my posts as "not sincere" or "pounding the clam". The truth of the matter is that my opinion just happens to be different from the norm held here, thus most of you perceive it as being "a joke".

I implore each and everyone of you to widen your horizons, and see past your own limitations of perception. To see more than what you simply want to see, have seen, and believe you only can see.

Then you will see that every ranking is genuine due to differing perceptions of the characters abilities.

I don't even know what "pounding the clam" means.

Why would you even pound a clam, whats the point? 😕

Ranking anybody above the Ones and Potential Anakin is ****ing stupid.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Ranking anybody above the Ones and Potential Anakin is ****ing stupid.

Grey Revan is the force united itself, he is beyond light and dark which is as far the Ones went.

The Ones were limited by the division of the force, they knew it existed in unison but were only able to manifest as extreme concentrations of it individually.

Revan surpassed the ones by manifesting in a tangible form that was all aspects of the force simultaneously. That is why Grey Revan could do Force Sever storm, where he makes form storms that rain force sever beams.

Marry me.

Originally posted by Nephthys
No, really???

I thought this was super srs hour.

My fellow SWF lackeys are attempting to counter trolling with actual arguments. This is stupid.

Team 2. Revan is a wart on Sidious's ass

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
True enough, I should be more insulted that Marek isn't on the list.

Anyway I'd say:

Tier 0- Ones and Abeloth(as in don't include these people in a 1 v 1 debate.)
Tier 1- Luke
Tier 1.5- DE Sidious and Vitate
Tier 2, Yoda, Caedus , Vader(though farther down the chain)
Tier 3, Dooku, Revan, Anakin, Mace
Tier 4, Obi-Wan, Kit Fisto


I would make some adjustments:-

Tier 0 - The Ones; Abeloth; Emperor Vitiate (max)
Tier 1 - Darth Sidious (DE); Emperor Vitiate (min)
Tier 2 - Luke Skywalker
Tier 3 - Yoda; Darth Caedus; Revan
Tier 4 - Mace Windu
Tier 5 - Count Dooku; Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader
Tier 6 - Obi-Wan Kenobi
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Tier 10 - Kit Fisto

Originally posted by Board Walker
Grey Revan is the force united itself, he is beyond light and dark which is as far the Ones went.

The Ones were limited by the division of the force, they knew it existed in unison but were only able to manifest as extreme concentrations of it individually.

Revan surpassed the ones by manifesting in a tangible form that was all aspects of the force simultaneously. That is why Grey Revan could do Force Sever storm, where he makes form storms that rain force sever beams.

LMAO

Do you even know anything about Revan? He isn't even close to top 10 force users and The ones are the peak of that hierarchy.

Claiming whatever you want to believe is not the same thing with presenting learned opinions.

Originally posted by Board Walker
Tier Alpha/Omega
1. Grey Revan
(This is theoretical Grey Revan at full potential, ancestor of the ones and unity of the force incarnate).

😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
I would make some adjustments:-

Tier 0 - The Ones; Abeloth; Emperor Vitiate (max)

Sidious > Vitiate

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
I would make some adjustments:-

Tier 0 - The Ones; Abeloth; Emperor Vitiate (max)
Tier 1 - Darth Sidious (DE); Emperor Vitiate (min)
Tier 2 - Luke Skywalker
Tier 3 - Yoda; Darth Caedus; Revan
Tier 4 - Mace Windu
Tier 5 - Count Dooku; Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader
Tier 6 - Obi-Wan Kenobi
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Tier 10 - Kit Fisto


lolno

Originally posted by Nalaniel
Sidious > Vitiate

No

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
lolno

Yes

It is the most accurate assessment. Most logical at-least.

>Comparing Vitiate to the Ones(still), despite the fact that Sidious is ranked higher than him knowing full well he existed
>Ranking Revan in Yoda's tier
>Pretending that Anakin and Vader are in the same tier and are not on par with Revan
>Ranking Mace above Dooku and Anakin, as well as Vader
>underrating Fisto like no other

There's nothing logical or accurate about your assessment.

DE Sidious isn't a tier above Luke.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
>Comparing Vitiate to the Ones(still), despite the fact that Sidious is ranked higher than him knowing full well he existed

Sidious isn't ranked higher then The Ones and Emperor Vitiate. This is fanon assumption.

According to Legends, Emperor Vitiate is the most powerful Force-user ever. According to canon, The Ones are possibly the most powerful Force-users. Contradiction or disagreement in this matter exists at official capacity.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
>Ranking Revan in Yoda's tier

Why not? His performance on Star Forge? His quick dismissal of Darth Nyriss? His performance against the Imperial Strike Team after enduring 300 years of torture? His command of the Force being superior to the most powerful members of Sith Triumvirate? His ability to attain Oneness condition at will?

Revan have the necessary hype and raw power display to be ranked on par with Yoda. And this is generous assessment.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
>Pretending that Anakin and Vader are in the same tier and are not on par with Revan

Revan is stronger then either.

Anakin Skywalker never reached his prime. He did loose his strength after injuries but he compensated for this shortcoming with better understanding of the Force later on.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
>Ranking Mace above Dooku and Anakin, as well as Vader

Mace's performance against Darth Sidious should count.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
>underrating Fisto like no other

Obi-Wan is better then him.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
There's nothing logical or accurate about your assessment.

I am not convinced.

Originally posted by Nephthys
DE Sidious isn't a tier above Luke.

Sidious (DE) is more powerful then Luke, IMO.

Sidious exceeded his natural potential during this time and acquired extraordinary powers, he could level cities or destroy whole fleets at this point.

Luke likely had higher potential then Sidious at natural level. But Sidious (DE) is different ballgame, unnatural.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
True enough, I should be more insulted that Marek isn't on the list.

Anyway I'd say:

Tier 0- Ones and Abeloth(as in don't include these people in a 1 v 1 debate.)
Tier 1- Luke
Tier 1.5- DE Sidious and Vitate
Tier 2, Yoda, Caedus , Vader(though farther down the chain)
Tier 3, Dooku, Revan, Anakin, Mace
Tier 4, Obi-Wan, Kit Fisto

Great list. The only change I see is Revan should be tier two. I rank him above Dooku and Mace.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Sidious isn't ranked higher then The Ones and Emperor Vitiate. This is fanon assumption.

Who ranked Sidious above the Ones? No one. However, Sidious is above Vitiate, being the most powerful Sith lord of all time by all in mythos accounts.

According to Legends, Emperor Vitiate is the most powerful Force-user ever. According to canon, The Ones are possibly the most powerful Force-users. Contradiction or disagreement in this matter exists at official capacity.

The only evidence I have seen for Vitiate being above the Ones is off handed statements that you constantly spam in every thread about him before saying you hope Disney shows how powerful he really is.

Why not? His performance on Star Forge? His quick dismissal of Darth Nyriss? His performance against the Imperial Strike Team after enduring 300 years of torture? His command of the Force being superior to the most powerful members of Sith Triumvirate? His ability to attain Oneness condition at will?

None of that is in Yoda's tier. And using one offs as a showing of ones power level is never a good tactic.

Revan have the necessary hype and raw power display to be ranked on par with Yoda. And this is generous assessment.

And Anakin has raw power to make him the strongest character in the mythos. That doesn't mean he is. That also doesn't put him in Yoda's tier.

Revan is stronger then either.

Not really. And being stronger than someone doesn't stop them from being in the same tier than you.

Anakin Skywalker never reached his prime. He did loose his strength after injuries but he compensated for this shortcoming with better understanding of the Force later on.

Revan never reached his prime, and even then he has never shown anything that would stop him from being in the same tier as Anakin. Revan is firmly in the Dooku tier of power levels, though stronger than Dooku himself. This is not a ranking list.

Mace's performance against Darth Sidious should count.

Even in the novel it's stated as a showing of Vaapad's strength, not Mace's base power.

Obi-Wan is better then him.

And? Again, this is a list of tiers.

I am not convinced.

Perhaps if I had Vitiate read it to you, that would change your mind.