Should Marijuana Be Legalized?

Started by dadudemon38 pages

Originally posted by CATMANEXE
i havent been able to smoke pot for years because of asthma.
i used to be a member of NORML.

yes it should. theres no solid legitmate reason it shouldnt. you can legally own it via prescription. you can legally buy drugs which a extremly harmful and addictive, while pot, being just an herb, isnt.
only real reason i can think of its illegal? so burecrats can make money.
if they really didnt want it in the US doesnt it stand to reason that given our advanced survalance and especially how tightly monitored things are now they could stop it, at least the amount thats coming in everyday? or maybe im just the only oone who noticed our presidents shaking hands with manuel noriega all those times.

on the other side, its really legal if you dont advertise it.

Have you tried to vaporize it with the volcano? try that. you should probably be able to handle that with asthma.

i dunno. i tried eating it too. last time i chanced it my lungs closed and i had to take an ambulance to the hospital. i just snort amphetamines nowdays...did i say that out loud?

Originally posted by RedAlertv2
What if when weed was made legal, there was a stipulation in the law that it would still be illegal to grow your own, unless you got a license to do so? The license would entail some sort of fee (tax), kind of like what the legalization bill in California was proposing. The bill they had was going to make it a $50 annual fee per plant. Overall I get what you're saying now, but nonetheless the government still stands to gain a substantial amount of money from legalizing weed. If nothing else, by cutting all the spending they currently allocate towards law enforcement against marijuana.

I am not a member of the governing bodies, so I can't answer a what-if question as though we were debating this issue on the floor of the senate. However, I do not think that levying a tax or fee on a legal herb is very constitutional. The tobacco plant is legal, as are all of the ingredients that go into the process of making alcohol.

Yes; the government, particularly those of the states that are looking at legalization, stand to gain major profits. Califonia is looking at something like a billion plus, per year. I think this figure is seriously undercutting the reality of the potential profits, though. I don't argue that the vast majority of people are not only willing to pay a state and federal tax on legal Marijuana; neither am I underestimating the luxury most people will default to when it comes to actually growing the pot vs just going to the corner store and buying it already rolled and ready to go. Not many people grow their own vegetables these day; rather they go to the farmers market or the grocery store. But imagine the implications of taxing a family that actually does grow it's own vegetables? Earlier some one mentiond the risk of paying hiked prices for a black market product. But, taking moonshine as an example and comparing it to the weed clubs. If you do then you see the different price points in the variety of weed. Smoke less of the higher grade weed and it's effects are more substantial and the amount consumed is far less. Government regulations dictate how high an alcohol content can be, but there are no such considerations in illegal moonshine. Legal alcohol is 40% or 50%, and a few even higher. But moonshine is refined down to the point that you have to drink 1/3 as much to get 3 times the effects. That cuts into the volume sold due to consumption and the profits of those legal companies that pass on your tax dollars to the government.

There is no doubt that ending the drug war in favor of turning it into a lucrative venture serves the greater good. Not only is the money spent on the drug war a total waste, but turning a profit on all those drugs that people are going to take be they legal or not can only serve the best interest of the people, as a whole. Want to fund national healthcare? Start by profiting from weed. Weed is certainly less harmful than cigarettes, especially since you don't have to smoke 20 joints a day to keep the high going; double whammy.

Originally posted by CATMANEXE
i dunno. i tried eating it too. last time i chanced it my lungs closed and i had to take an ambulance to the hospital. i just snort amphetamines nowdays...did i say that out loud?

No you didn't. You typed it on your computer, clicked "submit", a few data packets traveled from your computer to your ISP, your ISP directed it to the vBulletin server, and the vBulliten server directed it to the KMC forum location in it's datacenter, and it F***ING MADE YOUR POST PERMANENT ON THE F***ING INTERNET! (Of course, there's probably a LOT more hops than that, but you get the point.)

You have between 24-48 hours before Google's indexing sweeper makes you post searchable to no less than BILLIONS!

Now, had you actually said that out loud and there were only ears with in reach of those words, you'd only have to worry about memories stored on neurons.

heh. its cool. i already got caught anyways. they dont care. they just tell me to knock it off. actually i havent in like 6 months now. but im having surgery on Friday and theyre just going to pump me full of it and prescribe morphine anyways you know?

Originally posted by CATMANEXE
heh. its cool. i already got caught anyways. they dont care. they just tell me to knock it off. actually i havent in like 6 months now. but im having surgery on Friday and theyre just going to pump me full of it and prescribe morphine anyways you know?

Sort of. Amphetamines are far and away NOT what they are going to put into you.

And amphetamine drugs are one of the stupidest drugs you can take.

theres far worse. as long as one doesnt make a need or a habit out of it.

Originally posted by CATMANEXE
theres far worse. as long as one doesnt make a need or a habit out of it.
Those words are true for almost every drug

Why not? I really haven't heard any anti-marijuana arguments I found very compelling. Never used it myself but it seems harmless.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Why not? I really haven't heard any anti-marijuana arguments I found very compelling. Never used it myself but it seems harmless.

How about legalizing Cocaine?

Originally posted by King Kandy
Why not? I really haven't heard any anti-marijuana arguments I found very compelling. Never used it myself but it seems harmless.

Because there aren't any, other than that it's a 'gateway drug'. Which in and of itself is something of a slippery slope argument.

Originally posted by RedAlertv2
Those words are true for almost every drug

pots not a drug, its an herb.

herb...

drug...

heres whats messed up...who doesnt want pot to be legal?
people who dont have to smoke it, have it, or see it unless
they chose too.

thats why it should be legal.

Originally posted by CATMANEXE
pots not a drug, its an herb.

It's both.

no where near close

Originally posted by Ace of Knaves
How about legalizing Cocaine?

Because Cocaine can KILL you.

Yeah weed doesn't have that problem.

BURN
FACIAL
SUCK IT

Once someone dies from weed (lol), then I'll say keep it illegal, but unless it's laced with another drug, it can't do anything bad to you.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Why not? I really haven't heard any anti-marijuana arguments I found very compelling. Never used it myself but it seems harmless.

international crime syndicates will take advantage of lax laws

this is seen in Amsterdam already, and is constantly seen when experimental decriminalization is tried

Originally posted by Davis Bloome
Once someone dies from weed (lol), then I'll say keep it illegal, but unless it's laced with another drug, it can't do anything bad to you.

there are plenty of negative, very serious, and long term effects of smoking pot. An overdose or cancer are unlikely, harm to the user is not.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Why not? I really haven't heard any anti-marijuana arguments I found very compelling. Never used it myself but it seems harmless.

The collapse of civilization doesn't sound compelling to you?

Untrue, of course, but quite compelling.

Originally posted by inimalist
international crime syndicates will take advantage of lax laws

this is seen in Amsterdam already, and is constantly seen when experimental decriminalization is tried

Take advantage how?