Magneto vs Superman

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Why is it that this argument is only considered valid in "vs. Superman" threads? I said Silver Surfer is faster than thought, and he could knock out GL before he even thinks to defend himself. No one acknowleged that.

-Flash
-Sups
-Gladiator
-Silver Surfer

But it's only valid for Flash it seems. (Because hey what else does flash have)

SS, Sups, Gladiator --- we all know how fast they are. (Yet they get hit by slower beings/ and yet sometimes they fight at level beyond light speed (except sups)) it contradicts the other statement.

Because comics would be boring if the fight lasted one second.

Ok Superman has been in the Sun... the gravity / magnetic field of that is pretty powerful... it did not kill him. Or "repel his cells from one another." Magneto does not use magic... he uses magnetic fields.

Cancel out his aura field? Are you joking? Magneto can not drain energy from beings.

This is retarded... Superman would destroy Magneto.

If you hit his magnetic force field with enough power or strength you can cause him to lose his concentration. He is still a human... needs to rest... does not have better endurance... is not super strong... is not invulnerable... no psychic powers... no magic... HE LOSES.

I agree completely with Jason8200.

Originally posted by Jason8200
Ok Superman has been in the Sun... the gravity / magnetic field of that is pretty powerful... it did not kill him. Or "repel his cells from one another." Magneto does not use magic... he uses magnetic fields.

Cancel out his aura field? Are you joking? Magneto can not drain energy from beings.

This is retarded... Superman would destroy Magneto.

If you hit his magnetic force field with enough power or strength you can cause him to lose his concentration. He is still a human... needs to rest... does not have better endurance... is not super strong... is not invulnerable... no psychic powers... no magic... HE LOSES.

Actually, Magneto has drained energy from beings. He drained the gamma out of Hulk, and sucked the energy out of Phoenix, for example.

Seeing as how some of you say Magneto would win, also happen to have Magneto in your sig shows your bias.

Superman would beat Magneto.

Only kgkg has magneto in his sig and can you blame him? Magneto has a very cool costume.

Originally posted by Redwolf
Seeing as how some of you say Magneto would win, also happen to have Magneto in your sig shows your bias.

That is one of the stupidest things I have ever heard... Just because you have a character in your signature does not mean you think that they would win in a fight or that you think they are the greatest. Even though Milk-chan could whoop Superman. ^^;

mags is stronger,

Originally posted by laydiiplayette
Even though Milk-chan could whoop Superman. ^^;

magneto has too many tricks.

magneto can even use is EM skills to amplify his strength to superman levels. throw in a damn-near invulnerable forcefield, quantum matter control, and a smidgeon of telepathy...superman should in no way win.

and i have heard it suggested that magneto is not only human...can someone verify this? i think demigawd posted something awhile ago about how magneto might be immortal and doesn't really need his body.

Originally posted by Jason8200
Ok Superman has been in the Sun... the gravity / magnetic field of that is pretty powerful... it did not kill him. Or "repel his cells from one another." Magneto does not use magic... he uses magnetic fields.

magneto has control over not just magnetism but also all the otherfundamental forces of the universe{elctro magnetic[meanin all heat and light]. weak and strong nuclear forces[gives him matter manipulation properties], gravitational force[he can also produce antigravity]} plus he can open wormholes and has power to contain small singularities with his new enhancements, he also has minor psychic skills like mind reading, shielding and basic telepathy{which have been augmented even more by his enhancement}, he can take his strength WELL beyond class hundred, having previously leed a 30000 ton{i cant remember exactly} frieght train into the air from a large distance, mags can also reverse the entire magnetic poles of a planet and hence move or destroy a planet, he can put virtually limitless amounts of pressure on anything he wants, he can multitaske, and can also control energy flow, his magnetic shield has taken direct hits from tactiacal nukes without beein damaged, he can also magnetically accelerate himself or something else to near light speed if he wants, he has a will of iron, and a super genius level intellect. now tell me, logically what chance does superman have{incidently, superman can only lift 30000 tons, magneto can go on way more than that}, if sum 1 can prove me wrong, please do so.

Ok but Magneto is still just a mutant... which is pretty much a human with a few added in / defective genes. He will get tired before Superman... get fatigued if he is forced to fight for hours much less if the fight took a day or two. he might be able to travel close to the speed of light (which I doubt but I will give you) but he cannot think that fast. Superman can.

What exactly is a will of iron?

He is a genius as far as things like cloning and mutations go. Not a battle genius or a very skilled fighter. Superman is though. Lets see... leader of the JLA or leader of mutants who always gets beat by the X-Men?

When Magneto is tired or hurt (after fighting Superman he will be both) he does not control his powers as easily. So he cannot do as much with them. Also he can do all of that extra stuff you said like control the different spectrums of light but it is a lot harder for him to do and takes a lot more of his concentration.

I have found one instance of him using his powers to lift a 30000 ton object... but not more. So your theory of "incidently, superman can only lift 30000 tons, magneto can go on way more than that"

-Show me the proof of him lifting way more than that

That wouldnt matter anyways... Superman has taken direct hits with nuclear weapons also... and lived. So that part of your arguement means nothing.

Magneto's telepathic powers as stated in Official Marvel Guidebook shows that he only as enough to help protect himself against other telepaths. He would not be strong enough to control Superman.

Even if I do give you all of the powers you listed above... (even though you portrayed them poorly and made them seem like he was a master of them all), it would end up that Superman has more endurance and would be able to fight for longer periods of time. Once Magneto gets tired he will start to lose control of his powers. Just like GLs powers weaken when they lose their concentration.

So again Superman would destroy Magneto. Sorry leonhartmm... A mutnant will never be enough to stop a near cosmic being. He is still just a gene defective human.

Instead of saying things like "I can't remember exactly" why dont you just say that you copy and pasted your entire arguement from the Marvel Handbook. Thats a shame... couldnt even copy right... trying to make it look like he is a master of all of those powers... End it.

Originally posted by Jason8200
A mutnant will never be enough to stop a near cosmic being.

Seriously though, demigawd will be around at any time to tell us about House of M and the reality warping. Aside from that, Superman having a natural forcefield only makes it that much easier for Magneto to affect him.

Yea...I dont know what u mean by someone only being a Mutant...tell that to Franklin Richards as he thinks Superman out of existance. Although Leonheart already made a great argument and description of Magneto's powers and reasons why he would outclass Superman, essentially, Superman's powers depend on a telekinetic field derived from UV light energy. Magneto has very considerable mastery over the EM spectrum, well at least in terms of Superman's scale. Essentially the nature of Superman's powers would make him Magneto's *****. And since when did Superman become a cosmic being...he is no Surfer...he's just an alien...with badly written powers.

Actually, I don't need to contribute anything to this thread. Everybody is doing just fine. 🙂

Ahhh!

Let me just mention that the pressure that Mags can exert alone is enough to make Supes fall. Can you imagine increasing the Earth's gravitional pull to the point that Supes can't move or fly therefore grounding him. Add the fact that he drops several tons of metal or maybe a freight train on him and game over.

magneto has the power...the question is would he have the time and focus to use the power to his advantage? magneto

Yes, because Superman would start out by trying talk Magneto down, like he always does.