The Battle of The Teens:Original Teen Titans Vs Original Xmen

then u might as well take jean out if youre using them as they are now cos they come as a single package these days im afraid

draw.
they are both too good at what they do.

If Jean wasn't the Phoenix then the Teen Titans (as they are) would win. Iceman isn't a threat because Tempest has complete and utter control over water molecules. The Flash would take the rest out with ease.

Originally posted by Draco69
If Jean wasn't the Phoenix then the Teen Titans (as they are) would win. Iceman isn't a threat because Tempest has complete and utter control over water molecules. The Flash would take the rest out with ease.

I though he can only control the temperature of water.

No. He can control water molecules. He can even get rid of his "24-hour" out of water weakness just by drawing moisture from the air.

But from what you've said his control over the water molecules doesnt seem to enable him to do anything other than evaporate iceman which still leaves him free to use his powers.

He can do anything he pleases with water molecules. He can turn Iceman to steam to ice then back to steam again. He has complete control over water molecules. Iceman can't do anything to him. He'll be like putty to Tempest.

But he still cant kill him from what youre saying. Plus if tempests bodys still flesh then iceman can attack it and possibly freeze it no?

Actually he can. He once reduced an entire lake to oxygen in order to get oxygen to some air-deprived people.

Iceman can't freeze him. Tempest has complete control over water molecules. Including his body's.

How can Iceman freeze Tempest's body if Tempest has complete control over him?

the thing is that iceman also has mastery of water molecules and non-water molecules........the "ice" that he actually comes up with cant be from moiuisture cuz that would cause the end of the world....major disruptions in the world cant explain right now....anyways iceman just controls the motion of molecules....he casues the brownian effect ( i think i spelt that wrong) which just cuases the molecules to stop in effect freezing them.....and in a side note that could mean that bobby could reverse the process and make things realllly hot......

"How can Iceman freeze Tempest's body if Tempest has complete control over him?"

Iceman is still conscious and able to use his powers in a dispersed state and obviously in ice form so tempest wouldnt win that way. Also who is to say iceman couldnt survive being dispersed in such a way. Its completely feasible. I believe he cant be killed by anything less than psionic, mystical attack or one which destroys a large portion of his molecules.

Iceman doesn't have "mastery" over water molecules. Have you ever seen him do anything to suggest that? No. Because's he's an idiot. He has the POTENTIAL for control. But certainly not mastery. That's ludicrous.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
"How can Iceman freeze Tempest's body if Tempest has complete control over him?"

Iceman is still conscious and able to use his powers in a dispersed state and obviously in ice form so tempest wouldnt win that way. Also who is to say iceman couldnt survive being dispersed in such a way. Its completely feasible. I believe he cant be killed by anything less than psionic, mystical attack or one which destroys a large portion of his molecules.

Iceman is water. Water isn't water without hydrogen. Iceman dies.

sorry...ur right hes an idiot....what i meant was that his mutant power is to have mastery of molecules......not only water molecuels but whatever....ur right the biggest thing he's ever done is become air......and hes so dumb that he doesnt even do it anymore....he's still on his little ice tracks........

Ice tracks are cool though.

cool yes...as effeciant...no....he has the potiental to be almost as fast as a teleporter......i mean common.....making speed in stealth mode would be awsome if he actually used that power......

Ice tracks is a cooler and more stylish way to get around though. I'd rather cruise around with my ice tracks than become air and float around.

thats true....but i mean in a mission type settin.....when u need stealth cover....he still goes with the slides...course the slides would be awsome.....i mean ur own roller coaster

The Incredibles made a very accurate picture of Iceman on icetracks.