The Stupid Statistics Thread

Started by Symmetric Chaos6 pages

Originally posted by King Castle
its time for an uprising if the FBI starts running around trying to arrest people in their states.

i'll help.

Or, more productively, you could encourage such propositions in other states and force the federal government to actually confront the issue of drug use.

nah, i like my idea better the state can then arrest FBI agents for kidnapping and arresting ppl making trump up charges that are state and not federal which should be easy enough since some state laws will overlap and be broken in the course of the FBI agent doing his duty. he can be tried in state.

although federal law prohibits an agent of the law to be charged during the course of his duties..mhmm

i guess ppl should just contract me, i charge 100k. must provide intel.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Which, it turns out, will be mostly symbolic. The Attorney General was just recently complaining that if it does pass he'll be required to crack down on marijuana use in California.

the same way they do on medical marijuana use and distribution?

Originally posted by King Castle
even if you vote yes on the prop 19 it is still illegal under federal law and can just the same be arrested.

what needs to change is the expansion of federal power which should be limited severely.

yes, and the humungous medical marijuana industry in California is illegal as well, under federal law

for as much as the FBI might want to flex, they are in no position to stop marijuana use in California, especially if the local police are no longer participating

you make it sound as if the government actually has a chance in the war on drugs

Originally posted by inimalist
yes, and the humungous medical marijuana industry in California is illegal as well, under federal law

for as much as the FBI might want to flex, they are in no position to stop marijuana use in California, especially if the local police are no longer participating

you make it sound as if the government actually has a chance in the war on drugs

i think the war on drug is a joke same for War on Terror, Leave no kids behind, Child fitness . if you had more motivated cartels it would be even less effective.

i was watching a report where America Government officials were afraid to talk or have their faces on camera out of fear..

its a joke that these ppl are the ones who make laws a bunch of cowards who are afraid to face those they are sh$# talking fighting against.

they are a sure sign that the war on drugs is not going so well.

so, let me just get this straight:

-you don't oppose personal cannibis use
-you don't support the rights of federal government over states
-you don't think the war on drugs is a good idea or going well

yet, you don't support prop 19?

Originally posted by inimalist
so, let me just get this straight:

-you don't oppose personal cannibis use
-you don't support the rights of federal government over states
-you don't think the war on drugs is a good idea or going well

yet, you don't support prop 19?

i never said i dont support Prop 19, i just said that the feds would fight it and its just a symbolic act. ppl, doctors will still be arrested.
i dont support federal power when it over reaches and tries to criminalize things that dont hurt anyone and has no bases for it and worse the general population of the state want it.
i think the war on drugs is stupid and based on propaganda that does more harm then help ppl.

but I think it is a little short-sighted to think that this will usher in some kind of federal take-over...

Like, if the FBI/DEA/etc thought it could eliminate marijuana use in California, don't you think it already would? People already flagrantly defy federal law, and there is little reprucussion.

What do you think the FBI could do that the state police aren't already? Hell, cartels are already moving their growing operations north of the border, in a few years, the cost of fighting the illegal trade to law enforcement agencies is going to be insurmountable

Originally posted by inimalist
but I think it is a little short-sighted to think that this will usher in some kind of federal take-over...

Like, if the FBI/DEA/etc thought it could eliminate marijuana use in California, don't you think it already would? People already flagrantly defy federal law, and there is little reprucussion.

What do you think the FBI could do that the state police aren't already? Hell, cartels are already moving their growing operations north of the border, in a few years, the cost of fighting the illegal trade to law enforcement agencies is going to be insurmountable

i was half heartedly joking.

i find it sad that a group of G- Men will arrest about 400 to 500 ppl Nation wide for Drug use and distribution these numbers mostly would be doctors, patients and lab workers who are trying to help their patients.

when they are arrested, infirmed patients will be left without medical treatment due to doctor's being in fearing of being arrested or losing their practice.

i know that their are no 100k armed federal agents at one time or anything, ii know they will not come down hard on any one state since they get their @$$es handed to them, i know it wouldnt happen or be extremely rare to happen but it has happen before. i know there will be no chaos..

i have to be honest with you, the thousands of poor, non-white, men who sell drugs because it is one of the few profitable industries in the inner city, who get arrested, tearing apart low income families, bother me a little more than the 500 doctors who might have to get a good lawyer, are statisticly less likey to see jail time, and have full employment prospects after any ordeal

it bothers me that more white males are statically more likely to do drugs or have drugs on them then any other race seem to rarely get arrested.

but through stereotyping and illegally detaining and searching people based on suspicion has caused more non white americans to be arrested.

imagine if 7 out of 10 white men carried cocaine on them and only 1 out of ten got searched?

imagine if 4 out of 10 black or brown men carried drugs and 7 out of ten got searched.

that's how i view the drug on war its racially based. i dont hold a grudge nor does it bother me when a minority is selling drugs trying to survive. it bothers me more that police unfairly focus on the poor and minority then those more likely to do or possess drugs but not fit the stereotype.

even the search of drugs is skewed that to pat some one down outside of their clothes one cannot search the pockets if their is a soft object only if it is a hard item.

anyways.. i hate the law(man) period.

vote yes on prop 19 then 😉

if the police randomly arrested and searched ppl of all racist they be surprised who the real criminal drug dealers and users really are.

b4 people start saying its illegal to do that maybe you ppl should change attitudes and stop allowing cops from doing it now to ppl who are criminals or are too poor to fight it legally.

your real criminals would be:
suburbia people
young people
house wives
house dads
Lawyers
real estate agents
people from high income background what a shocker

here, if you see some one matching this
http://www.digit-8.com/wp-content/images/man-in-suit.jpg
he is more then likely to have illegal drugs on him then a black man or brown man who looks like this:

http://www.ralphmag.org/CG/mexican-cholo317x449.gif
http://hiphop-n-more.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/black-milk-9.jpg

i wouldnt have a problem if jail and society reflected the real crime rate of drug offenders.

Originally posted by inimalist
vote yes on prop 19 then 😉
i would but i do not live in california havent in a couple of years.

plus, it be hypocritical sense i refuse to pay their state tax. 😉

50.9% in the USA are female.