Teleporting your opponent to another dimension is not beating him.
That's just delaying the inevitable. People just argue that his wisdom will find the way. If he is in a close arena or surrounding with Juggs, what is he gonna whip up to defeat him???Wisdom doesn' mean genius intellect.
Shazam is gonna get his ass handed to him period. No one here can really argue the opposite.
if you go back to the hulk juggernaut thread and look at page 172 or 174 then i posted pics of the war hulk, juggernaut fight. war hulk didnt knock juggernaut out, he did give him a beat down.
i dont think shazam is gonna be knocked out with one punch. the fight can go either way, only if shazam uses his teleportation move. other then that after a long fight juggernaut knocks him out.
Again teleportation.
Is that it????
That's all this suck ass dude got.
That's not winnning a fight based on you being the strongest.
So Cloak versus Hulk. Cloak wins cuz he sucks Hulk in his dark dimension so therefore he "beat him" cuz he is stronger???
Plz don't make me laugh. Oh sorry you guys have already.
Originally posted by LordFear
Teleporting your opponent to another dimension is not beating him.
That's just delaying the inevitable. People just argue that his wisdom will find the way. If he is in a close arena or surrounding with Juggs, what is he gonna whip up to defeat him???Wisdom doesn' mean genius intellect.
Shazam is gonna get his ass handed to him period. No one here can really argue the opposite.
If he is in a close arena....then he'll teleport them both out to the Rock of Eternity. 😆
And for God's Sake, Juggs isn't going to land many if any blows on Captain Marvel. The guy moves and reacts at superspeed. Juggs would be moving slow-motion.
Speculation.
Don't know what the adverse affect can do to him tempering with another source of magical power at all.
Don't know if the source of Cytorrak can withstand it.
To many variables to state something like that without knowing for certain if it will work.
That's at best speculation and wouldn't buy that as a legitimate scenario
Originally posted by Draco69
No idea. I think it was that JLA storyline with Hell.Anyhoo. The Rock of Eternity is literally the compendium of magic for the DC universe. Juggs shield isn't going to withstand it.
Don't you understand that the power of Cytorrak is limitless Draco?(sic)...there's no way anything in the Universe can destroy Jugg's shield(sic)..he's completely invulnerable to all forms of attack(sic)...and we all know that the Spectre is no match for Juggernaut(sic)...neither is Superman(sic)...Darkseid(sic)...or any of the New Gods(sic)...
Again Draco you are going by speculation and that alone is insufficient to accuratley make such a prediction.
We clearly see that Cytorakk is an immense source of power because of the different versions of Juggy. 8th Day then Trion which are versions that are insanely more powerful then classic. I don't see Juggy getting his ass handed to him unless he uses teleportation which is his only hope and not really getting a win just avoiding a battle.
You should know the rules by now, that's a valid arguement unless stated otherwise. Shazam can use teleportation to make the battle favorable for him. There's nothing wrong with using your powers in case you haven't heard. He could easily take him to black hole, which we've already seen will work, or even worse to the Rock of eternity.
And you call that a win???
Please people. Teleporting your opponent in a black hole doesn't qualify you as a victor regardless of whatever stipulation or the lack of it was stated at the beginning of the thread.
You pound, blast the guy into submission, unconsciousness or kill him. Those are wins for me. By rights I could just argue and say that Cloak could also best Juggy and Hulk and he therefore is more powerful then them, right??
Ridiculous. Tell me a stalemate but not such a whimsical scenario.
Yeah, the same way shadowcat can phase you into the ground, how is that not a win? No one's ever argued about Nightcrawler teleporting his enemies into a wall or teleporting there heads off. Teleportation is a power. Are you gonna argue about Psyclops using his optic beam, it's a power too you know?
dude taking someone and placing them somewhere else so you don't have to fight them is not a win. Call it whatever the hell you want but in my book you gotta work for a win. Cyclops??? What are you trying to be a wise guy or something? That's his main mutant power, no relevance at all. Again you fail to understand the point of my statement. It's like the U.S as much as we keep deporting illegal immigrants from over our borders, the problem still remains and comes back later on. It's only a temp answer for a problem not a solution.Therefore in this case, it's not a win for me.
But to each his own. I don't really need you to agree with me to stand by my statement!!!