Originally posted by Wally West
There were a series of episodes in Thundercats where Lion-O had to beat his team mates in specific trials. He beat out Panthro in strength, beat Cheetara in a race, out witted Wily Kit and Kat, and out smarted Tygra. Hes more than capable of beating Cap, especially with the sword and gauntlet.
Originally posted by Wally West
There were a series of episodes in Thundercats where Lion-O had to beat his team mates in specific trials. He beat out Panthro in strength, beat Cheetara in a race, out witted Wily Kit and Kat, and out smarted Tygra. Hes more than capable of beating Cap, especially with the sword and gauntlet.
That proves he is stronger than Cap no argument there.
He didn't Beat Cheetara in a flat out race he took a massive short cut then he passed her when her superspeed ran out. He doesn't have super agility or anything. Infact Captain America could have easily done the same.
He outwitted two 10 year-olds? Wow. yet he can't figure out that the bunny rabiit that talks and sounds just like his arch-enemy is Mumra?
He didn't out with Tygra he only proved that his will was stronger thant Tygras admitiddly weak illusions.
The only advantage he has over Captain America is strenthg. Cap is better in every way and then better in every other way. Wathc some of the Thundercats episodes Lion-O was an incpmetnat fighter, the guys he fought were just bigger morons thatn he. Lion-O couldn't even beat that Samurai that Mumra summoned form earth.
Captain AMerica 8/10.
"This is Cap. The man has proven his worth. The guy has fought legions of ninjas assassin from the Hand. I am I don't see Cap falling at all. Hightened senses for LionO but also Cap along with fighting skills hand to hand way above level. I mean this is special ops, government assassin killing/fighting machine of a man. LionO just can't counter that."
Lion-o is physically superior to Cap. The only thing you can give Cap is superior figthing skills. Wich Lion also has.
"By the end of the series, Lion O was quite a warrior.
He's far stronger, and faster than Captain America.
With the sword, he can fly, create 360 degree forcefields, generate lighting, shoot blasts, etc. He also has some mental powers due to training with Tigra, although rarely ever used."
Agreed. And people. The cat has a sword that makes him go toe to toe with Mun-Ra, Grune the destroyer, Shadowmaster magic`s. It doesnt just shoot little beams.
"Lion-O couldn't even beat that Samurai that Mumra summoned form earth."
Wich wasent your normal Samurai. Hachiman had a sword almost as powerful as the sword of Omens and a physical bond with it. And quite skilled with it as well.
Uhm what first of al Mumra was joke. Remember when that Dog gladiator came to earth. Mumra ran off after getting his tail kicked, that guy didn't have anyworld shattering powers he just had a few high tech weapons and a lot better fighting ability. Thats the same thing with Lion-O he has a few skills and some good weapons but when it comes to actually beating a skilled opponent Lion-O just can't hack it.
"Uhm what first of al Mumra was joke. Remember when that Dog gladiator came to earth. Mumra ran off after getting his tail kicked"
Mum-ra in his mummy form was a coward. Thats why he used the other one to fight.
"Thats the same thing with Lion-O he has a few skills and some good weapons but when it comes to actually beating a skilled opponent Lion-O just can't hack it."
Explain then how can he hang out with Grune and Mum-ra in his most powerful form.
Your probably using Lion-o in his rookie years, when he became quite the warrior after. He was a youth that was changed into an adult in a acelerated process.
We arent using rookie cap here either, are we?
Re: Lion-O versus Captain America
Originally posted by LordFear
Weid huh??
The leader of the Thundercats against Avenger's team leader.
Place: A thick luscious jungle
Weapons: Lion-O's sword and gauntlet and Cap's shield
Who wins?
1) If it is the cartoon Lion-O then Captain America has a chance. The cartoon Lion-O was a kid who had gone through accelerated growth and been given the mantle of leadership. But he was not totally ready to be a leader.
Thus cap has a good chance to beat this whelp.
2) If it is the COMIC BOOK Lion-O then Captain America gets obliterated! The comic book Lion-O spent YEARS inside the Book of Omens doing nothing else but combat training, learning Thunderian martial arts, learning the full powers of the Sword of Omens, and knowing strategy and combat tactics. When he came out he was totally different from what he was before.
He actually faced the entire planet by himself (after Mum-Ra had taken over it, enslaved all the Thundercats in Lion-O's absence, and filled the planet with mutant soldiers/slavers who were either killing Thundercats or enslaving them). The new Lion-O was a direct match for Mum-Ra, easily.
Anyways, since this is a 'comic book versus' forum I am to assume that the Lion-O to be compared with IS the comic book version.
THUS, the winner (by a huge margin) is Lion-O.
The comic book Lion-o, after he came out of the Book of Omens, would make Captain AMerica into his pet. Steve Rogers would be following Lion-O around on a leash once Lion-O was done with him.
Lion-O (comic book version) with ease.
Originally posted by olympian
"Uhm what first of al Mumra was joke. Remember when that Dog gladiator came to earth. Mumra ran off after getting his tail kicked"Mum-ra in his mummy form was a coward. Thats why he used the other one to fight.
"Thats the same thing with Lion-O he has a few skills and some good weapons but when it comes to actually beating a skilled opponent Lion-O just can't hack it."
Explain then how can he hang out with Grune and Mum-ra in his most powerful form.
Your probably using Lion-o in his rookie years, when he became quite the warrior after. He was a youth that was changed into an adult in a acelerated process.
We arent using rookie cap here either, are we?
He wasn't in his weak old man form, he was in his mumra form. He is just a wuss.
Like I said the guys in thundercats are pretty incompetant. Yet if thes two guys are so powerful wehre does that place the samurai?
He became quite a warrior but really he didn't do anythigng that places him head and shoulders over Captain America.
The sehild can stand up to the sword of Omens, at leas that is my guess the Sowrod hasn't shown anypowers that owuld destroy the sheild. Lion-O doesn't show any enhanced reflexs at least not int he cartoons. So the only thing that he has is his strnetgh.
Lion-O is an idiot and is always getting tricked in a battle and always dropping his sword or whatever pretty mcuh through out the entire series. So I definetly don't see this so called superior skill. I mean when lion-O meets an opponent with a weapon that can stand up to the sword and with some good skill he gets stalemated or beaten. Mumra despite being thousnads of ears old is still kind of an idiot too.
Don't let nostalgia cloud you judgment like I said me and my roomates have been watching the rereleased episodes on DVD. Watch them and you will agree that Lion-O wasn't really that good.
As for the comic book version I ddidn't evne know that they had one.
"He wasn't in his weak old man form, he was in his mumra form. He is just a wuss"
How did that went? He simply ran off? The other was more powerful? He was getting weaker? He was weaker already? What.
"He became quite a warrior but really he didn't do anythigng that places him head and shoulders over Captain America."
Not at the beginning no. We arent discussing rookie forms.
"Lion-O is an idiot and is always getting tricked in a battle and always dropping his sword or whatever pretty mcuh through out the entire series"
Plot devices then.
"So I definetly don't see this so called superior skill"
Because your using rookie version only.
"Mumra despite being thousnads of ears old is still kind of an idiot too."
He wouldnt be able to conquer the whole planet if he was.
"Don't let nostalgia cloud you judgment like I said me and my roomates have been watching the rereleased episodes on DVD. Watch them and you will agree that Lion-O wasn't really that good"
Not all of them appearantly. He wasent suposse to be good in the beginning since he was -learning- to be a leader.
"As for the comic book version I ddidn't evne know that they had one."
They already had a run in the 80`s and recently got another one by Wildstorm. Thats the version Spetnaz was walking about.
"How did that went? He simply ran off? The other was more powerful? He was getting weaker? He was weaker already? What."
No some guy with a doeberman's head came to the planet and started braggin about beign the best warrior Mumra who detected th ship came to see what was goig on. They fought but the guy was too strnog for Mumra and Mumra ran off then Mumra convincedhim to fight the Lion-O.
"Not at the beginning no. We arent discussing rookie forms."
So what are these high end feats he performed in the show?
"Lion-O is an idiot and is always getting tricked in a battle and always dropping his sword or whatever pretty mcuh through out the entire series"
When is a cigar just a cigar? It only highlights the fact tha Lion-O jsut wasn't very sharp.
"Because your using rookie version only."
Who has he foght and beatne that has definitevly better fightin skills than Cap? LionO was jus the best out of a bad bunch.
"He wouldnt be able to conquer the whole planet if he was."
When did Mumra take over the planet, not to mention that as I pointed ot the Thundercats were retarded.
"Not all of them appearantly. He wasent suposse to be good in the beginning since he was -learning- to be a leader."
And Cap is a better leader he leads people generally more powerful than himself and far more often beats people more powerful than himself. Lion-0 can barely beat people whoa re supposed to be his equals.