Originally posted by debbiejo
I think the ten commandments are good rules to live by. But how do ya keep the Sabbath holy???
The methods for this were expounded by Moses in other parts of Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy. More explanations were created for the Talmud as time went on.
It doesn't matter anyways as far as Christians are concerned: "Man was not made for the Sabbath, but the Sabbath for man."
The scriptures as a whole. All I am saying is that God is the one who said that the Sabbath didn't matter anymore but we still weren't allowed to kill or covet or so forth, and He's the only one that would have a right to do so.
When a parent raises their kid and says that the kid can have junkfood but not candy, the parent is the one that made the rule so all he or she has to do is say that's so and it is.
I don't agree..I find no place where such a BIG change was apparent..It should of been made really clear if it was, and it wasn't. Oh, well so much for the Big Ten...I was just making a point that PEOPLE have decided to change what they don't like, just as they have alway been doing since the beginning with the Roman Church...
It wasn't a big change. The correct day of worship was Sunday, but most people did not follow it. It wsa very difficult to overcome old habits and beliefs. Even the gentiles, who had not had old Jewish beliefs, fell into old Jewish practices because:
A) they knew Jesus was of the Jews, and knew how the Jews behaved and tried to mimic them
B) many gentiles were instructed to continue in old Jewish practices by Jewish converts who themselves had not abandoned these ideas yet
C) many gentiles were shunned by the Jewish Christians if they did not practice the old ways
D) Christianity was an illegal religion in the Roman empire, and many people simply had to practice in the old ways, especially in such obvious ways as to gather on Saturday, to avoid being caught.
E) People misunderstood the concept that was taught in Romans 14 (though people at the time learned this concept mostly from Paul's missions as opposed to this epistle which fewer actually had read to them or saw)
In fact, much of the book of Hebrews addresses this. Paul himself spends a lot of time addressing this type (though not this specific) problem. He even had to correct Peter (2 Galatians) because Peter was afraid of confronting the Jewish Christians about their old practices so he began to do them himself.
I looked up every verse that had to do with "The first day", and "The Sabbath day", and found no change. You will have to give me some examples.
From the above statement, you seem to be saying that the only reason that people kept the 4th commandment was out of fear of being caught because it was illegal, or old habits.
If Jesus was to have changed that day, It would of been said by him before the crucification and the new covenant...Since he didn't the 10 commandments, all ten are still in effect...Otherwise, you'll have to show me where he did change it. Just because they met on the 1st day or any other day of the week doesn't mean there was a change. It also says that they met daily also. I'm not saying that I keep it or not, but again it was something that "A group of deceitful men" changed for their own purposes. I'm not saying that eveything they did was of selfish motive, but they had their reasons for many things they changed.
The New Testament doesn't say very much about the day of worship, so looking up the Sabbath day or The first day won't do you any good. The problem with what you're saying is that it assumes that just because Jesus is not quoted in the gospel as saying something that He never said it at all. The gospels are only a few pages; there are plenty of things He said that aren't in there.
In this case there is another side to the story too, which is that much of the doctrine we have was developed in the 40 days between the resurrection and the ascension. There was a lot Jesus would not talk to the desciples about during his first ministry, in large part because until His death He would follow, and instruct others to follow, the Law of Moses. Things like the observance of the Sabbath would have been addressed by Jesus after His death, when they were correct.
That's why a lot of the doctrine we have comes from the epistles, because in them Paul, James, Peter, and John are expressing things that they have learned not only before the crucifixion but also after.
there is no right religion, religion is made of by people....if you believe in christ and God then you are Christian..not catholic, Lutheran, Pentacostal, baptist, ect....You are a christian and it should stick to that.. it sickens me how one religion (Christians) segregate from one another just because they don't like rules of a religion....there shouldn't be any rules if you love God and christ...just my thoughts......
That would never bring joy into anyones life....AND THAT WOULD BE THE REAL HELLno real hell is when my neighbour( a 50 year old clueless tasteless deranged female who thinks shes a diva) decides to take her stereo out on the porch and share her music for us 😘 Yeah thats when Satyricon comes on on mine