Ep.3 Republic/Empire military units discussion

Started by Echuu3 pages

Originally posted by Red Superfly

I actually like the evolution of the land based craft. AT-ST's and AT-AT's really do look awesome now. More armoured, untouchable and fearsome than the clone predecessors. They are a logical progression with the Empire theme of "invincibility".

The Jedi Starfighters remind me more of TIE Interceptors. The main body is the shape of a Interceptor wing. Makes sense because the TIE Interceptors were the Empires finest fighters, so they oughta be based on the superior Jedi fighters right?

I would have preffered to see some Y-Wings though. They were always stated as the old school fighters, and the X-Wing replaced them because they were faster, and the older Y-Wing fighters were converted into bombers. Woulda been nice to have seen pre-bomber Y-Wings in Episode III. It would have also have been cool if we saw Vader's TIE Fighter, but in huge volumes, because that, at one point was the prototype TIE fighter but was too expensive to mass produce. Yeah, it's EU, but i liked it.

I never liked the Naboo Starfighter. It looked so out of place in a Star Wars movie. I know, they were the royal ships, so they would be sleek and clean - but come on, I can't respect any ship that gets dubbed as "The banana fighter" by fans.

I'm also not convinced with the TRI fighter either. Looks a little too "borg" or "matrix" rather than Star Wars.

I agree mostly- especially with the landbased stuff. Like the transition of the AT-TE to the Turbotank to finally the AT-AT. I bet what they were thinking there is that by episode 3 they basically said"we need the backbone of our groundforces to be faster" so they put wheels on it. Then you see how they put the legs back on and made it taller which increases their range.

Y wings; I think that the arc-170 fighter is the predecessor to the y-wing- it has two main engines just like the y wing; it seems they just made them longer. the y wing had the potential for two pilots also; one of them a gunner. I dont know if this counts for anything but the lego arc-170 fighter has "bombs" that it can drop.
The tri-fighter is droids at their best; i kinda like it.
Do you think there is any similarity between the tie interceptor and the common droid starfighter? They kinda look alike and it would make sense since palps had influence on both sides of the war.

Originally posted by Echuu
Y wings; I think that the arc-170 fighter is the predecessor to the y-wing- it has two main engines just like the y wing; it seems they just made them longer. the y wing had the potential for two pilots also; one of them a gunner. I dont know if this counts for anything but the lego arc-170 fighter has "bombs" that it can drop.
The tri-fighter is droids at their best; i kinda like it.
Do you think there is any similarity between the tie interceptor and the common droid starfighter? They kinda look alike and it would make sense since palps had influence on both sides of the war.

Oh yeah I didn't think of it being like the Y-Wing, that's actually pretty cool.They are kinda like a cross between the X and Y-Wing. I'm still a bit undecided about the sleekness of it though. Could have done with a few more right angles and clear edges.

Don't get me wrong, I like the TRI Fighter. The CGI artwork is stunning, but I don't think it has any place in a Star Wars film, that's all. It just doesn't seem to "fit". It has a great sci-fi feel, but just not a Star Wars feel.

I wish there was a signature ship though. There hasn't been a "Falcon" or a "X-Wing" for the prequels. Something that shouts STAR WARS! as well as a TIE Fighter. I mean, sure, the timeline is bigger in the PT, but it needed SOMETHING to connect them all. Even if it was just Anakin and Obi having the same starfighters in Episode II and III, that woulda been enough to get an iconic ship in the audiences mind.

Yeah I know what ya mean. For the tri fighter I think that georgie just wanted another fighter for the confederacy to make things more interesting. I guess he could have made something different. It seems to be too circular.
I totally got ya with the singnature ship. I think it may be the prequal star destroyer. I don't know if you've seen any of those tv spots but for a second they showed a few of the destroyers in orbit with clone v-wings(with the classic tie fighter roar) flying around. It really gave me the feel of the original trilogy even though they didn't have them in episode 1.

And i guess its ok because the whole droid army thing dies out anyway. They are wired, but i think they are supposed to be more cultural...like the Naboo craft, we really didnt have any cultural craft in the OT it was, well, excludignt eh MonCalamari Crusiers in ROTJ, but it was either the Empire or whatever the Rebs could find. But if you think about it, all this Naboo and Wookie and CIS military stuff is supposed to be cultural (not that the CIS is a culture but you get me drift). Thats what makes the Vwings and Jedi Starfighters and Star Destroyers fit so nicely. That shot in teh new teaser with the Star Destroyers and V wings rocks my world. Just because we know whats coming....

Yeah I do think it is more cnsistent with the OT.

At least the Blockade Runner is in it, totally unchanged (although it seems to have some blue neon glow in certain parts that I don't ever remember seeing in ANH). It looks stunning too. Really nails the Star Wars feel.

I always thought it woulda been cool if the Tantive IV was like the Millenium Falcon of the prequels. There's no real reason why it couldn't have been either. Woulda kept that Star Wars feel and when the Tantive IV is captured in ANH, the torch is "passed on" to the Falcon.

Shame it had to be those rediculous silver dildos instead, lol.

That reminds me; does anyone see any similarity between the confederate ships we see in Episode three and the rebel ships from ESB and RTJ?

By the way, thanks for the pic Alliance 😄

Originally posted by Red Superfly
Yeah I do think it is more cnsistent with the OT.

At least the Blockade Runner is in it, totally unchanged (although it seems to have some blue neon glow in certain parts that I don't ever remember seeing in ANH). It looks stunning too. Really nails the Star Wars feel.

I always thought it woulda been cool if the Tantive IV was like the Millenium Falcon of the prequels. There's no real reason why it couldn't have been either. Woulda kept that Star Wars feel and when the Tantive IV is captured in ANH, the torch is "passed on" to the Falcon.

Shame it had to be those rediculous silver dildos instead, lol.

Dang; I just thought of something- in episode 1 when qui-gon and obi-wan land on the droid control ship their ship is very similar to the Tantive. They could have made their ship the Tantive if they could find a way for it to remain in tact instead of being blown to bits.

not really, the Medical Frigate, the stange ship looks something like the Seperatist Juggernaut in Republic COmmando, I dont know if they are using the ship in the movie, oh wait they are here.

Oh yeah I noticed those ships. The big beetle shaped ships in Ep III look like the transports that escape Hoth.

There's also a ship in Episode III that looks like a big gun. That made me think of the medical frigate from ESB and ROTJ.

Damn you read my mind alliance.

Well and the big Donught ships have a Death Star in the middle, you read mine, i was just about to to the "beetle ships"

I'm talking about the cruiser in the upper left corner. Sorry for how small the pic is. It's all I could find.

here they are

nah, I cant think of anything really, you could try to pull the MonCalimari Cuisers, but thats just a big bubbly grey ship.

The rebel just had to pick up whatever they could find, even if it was an old scrap. Rebel Scum.

lol; since palps got rid of droid military forces the rebs could have gotten their hands on some of that crap.

Also I have a question. For the episode 1 deleted scenes there is one when qui-gon is walking away with Anakin and the camera goes in on this big piece of machinery or something that looked familiar to me. Anyone know what it could be?

hmm, i dont know, but ill check it out tomorrow. Too late