How To Kill Wolverine

Originally posted by Ace of Knaves
I don't dislike Wolverine. I said as much. I'm not responsible for your assumptions of what does and does not constitute the entire X-Men universe. You're wrong, but that's your issue.

Below are 1/2 dozen links to a variety of threads in this forum that revolve around X-Men movies and cartoons. If you choose not to accept them as part of the X-Men universe, that is certainly your right. However, they are part of this comic book sub-forum and the X-Men universe as a whole. I'm even willing to bet you yourself have posted in some of them.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f49/t507822.html

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f49/t508181.html

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f49/t483910.html

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f49/t483910.html

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f49/t6547.html

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f49/t408137.html

Originally posted by Ace of Knaves
Perhaps I thought that your fanboy status deserved more than 2 sentences.

I am up-to-date on my Wolverine knowledge. This is why I've addressed it over and over again in my many posts in this thread. Sadly, you have not addressed the validity of what I've said. This has further provided evidence of why your only real interest with the Xverse is Wolverine. Again, and for at least the third time, I've addressed that Wolverine is no longer the primary and only character in many x-titles. However, he is the primary character in the movies and cartoons and was the primary character for the majority of the 90s and early 2000s, as well as being the only character that every expansion effort feels the need to exploit. Bryan Singer has also stated that he focused the first 2 movies on the character because the studio executives insisted that he do so. I understand that Wolverine is a testosterone-soaked badass that so many of his fanboys wish they were in a wet dream, but there's more to the Xverse than him. In our conversation, you've defended him simply because I haven't overly defended him. That says a lot about your perspective on the character and why you defend him when no defense is needed. I recognize his place in the world of the X-Men, I simply resent that people lik eyou think he should be the central figure in every X-Men story. Perhaps you were the first person in line to see the Origins movie; I hope you enjoyed it. Personally, I won't be seeing it.

He wasn't the main focal point in X-Men TAS... in fact... he was pretty much a joke.

He wasn't the main focal point in X-Men Evolution... and again... he was pretty much a joke.

Despite being the title character for Wolverine and the X-Men, the difference in focus between Wolverine and the rest of the X-Men (for the most part at least, some of them are still under represented), wasn't all that severe.

Wolverine has practically never been the focal point in the X-Men comics. Sure he is there all the time but he rarely fills any role of importance to the story. In more than 30 years there are only a hand full of issues where Wolverine is the driving force behind an X-Men story.

He was the main character - for lack of a better term - in the move... but for the most part (like Wolverine and the X-Men), the rest of the cast got a comparable (though not equal) amount of screen time. Maybe Cyclops and Storm were under represented, but Magneto, Xavier, Rogue and Jean all got a good amount of screen time and character development.

He is the main character of his solo series... but that seems appropriate.

He has hands down has the most action figures and merch of any of the X-Men though.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
it is not 616 so i dont care

Then you cleanly remove yourself from commenting on the entire X-Universe or anything that has come before what interests you.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
He wasn't the main focal point in X-Men TAS... in fact... he was pretty much a joke.

He wasn't the main focal point in X-Men Evolution... and again... he was pretty much a joke.

Despite being the title character for Wolverine and the X-Men, the difference in focus between Wolverine and the rest of the X-Men (for the most part at least, some of them are still under represented), wasn't all that severe.

Wolverine has practically never been the focal point in the X-Men comics. Sure he is there all the time but he rarely fills any role of importance to the story. In more than 30 years there are only a hand full of issues where Wolverine is the driving force behind an X-Men story.

He was the main character - for lack of a better term - in the move... but for the most part (like Wolverine and the X-Men), the rest of the cast got a comparable (though not equal) amount of screen time. Maybe Cyclops and Storm were under represented, but Magneto, Xavier, Rogue and Jean all got a good amount of screen time and character development.

He is the main character of his solo series... but that seems appropriate.

He has hands down has the most action figures and merch of any of the X-Men though.

Wolverine has never been the focal point of the X-Men universe?

In X-Men:TAS, Wolverine set the tone for the entire series. His outbursts and instincts were the basis for pretty much every scene he was in. If the story didn't revolve around him, then the story was rewritten to involve his instincts and insight, as though the other characters would never have made it out of a situation unless Wolverine was there to tell them what they did wrong; how wrong they were for not listening to him in the first place or at an outright disadvantage because he wasn't there.

X-Men Evolution did a good job of starting the entire mythology over again in line with the school aspect begun by the movies, but why was Wolverine one of the adult teachers while other, longer-established characters tuned back into teenagers when his own back story should have been no where to be seen given his history?

In the X-Movies he wasn't just the main character, but pretty much every plot point and story impetus was based on him not knowing who the hell he was and how he was going to figure that out. Even when Magneto wasn't actually looking for him, the entire film revolved around Magneto looking for Wolverine. I like that, because when it actually unfolded, Magneto made a joke about Wolverine thinking it was all about him. Again, don't assume that what's his face is right when he paints me as a Wolverine-hater. I think Wolverine has his place, but any time the entire X-Universe begins to focus on one character it begins to suffer. Magneto is my favorite, but anytime the entire universe becomes centered around him for more than a hand full of issues it starts to suck. Sadly, since the 90's Wolverine has been that character. Perhaps not always in the comics, but certainly in the public and the majority of off-shoot media endeavors.

What really happens is that Wolverine is the most over-exposed character, meaning that all those action figures, cartoons, one shots, posters and origin movies end up serving only the most vocal of X-Fans. I never said that the entire comic aspect of X-Men focused on Wolverine. Otherwise, there would only be five or six mutants in 40 years worth of comics. What I really said was that most people become involved with X-Men comics because Wolverine is in the story, being the badass they all really wish they were rather than taking the time to figure out which character they really are. No one wants to be leech, but most want to be Wolverine. To sum it up for barrel-butt or hammerhocks or what ever his name was; I like Wolverine, I just think his fans are typically idiots.

Originally posted by Ace of Knaves
Perhaps you were the first person in line to see the Origins movie; I hope you enjoyed it. Personally, I won't be seeing it.

"You have chosen wisely." -Grail Knight

Drop him into a volcano and he'll die eventually or keep him submerged in acid until all his cells are destroyed.

Originally posted by Wolfblood77
Drop him into a volcano and he'll die eventually or keep him submerged in acid until all his cells are destroyed.

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Ya but he shouldn't survive that unless he truely is immortal. Plus climbing out of a volcano would be harder lol

Apparently it took place before Guggenheim's story, so I really don't have a problem with it.

Current Wolverine shouldn't be able to replicate that feat, though.

Originally posted by Robtard
"You have chosen wisely." -Grail Knight

I hope so. I didn't see any need to pollute my mind with the storyline. I did the same thing with Kingdom of the Crystal Skull.

I think a lot of you are forgetting that Wolverine's healing factor works all the way down to a healing factor. The missle things been tried before. He can heal from any vital wound really only ways to kill him would be poison, cut off his oxygen, or stop his healing factor o_o

Originally posted by Ryuunosuke_
I think a lot of you are forgetting that Wolverine's healing factor works all the way down to a healing factor. The missle things been tried before. He can heal from any vital wound really only ways to kill him would be poison, cut off his oxygen, or stop his healing factor o_o

I think a lot of you are forgetting that Wolverine's healing factor works all the way down to a healing factor.

I meant to say that it works all the way to a cellular level.

His healing from a single-drop of blood was due to some god-gem enhancement. Not a regular ability of his.

Do destroying all his tissue at once, would do it. Disintegration, extreme heat/fire, acid bath etc. should do it. PIS aside.

You mentioned cutting off his oxygen, which makes sense as every cell in his body would die without it, eventually, so a drop into the ocean or firing his ass into space should do it to.

Originally posted by Ace of Knaves
I like Wolverine, I just think his fans are typically idiots.

http://www.cracked.com/video_17328_why-having-wolverines-claws-would-suck.html

Gave me flash-back

Originally posted by Ace of Knaves
Then you cleanly remove yourself from commenting on the entire X-Universe or anything that has come before what interests you.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
x-universes to me is 616 universes sinces anything out side of it is simply an alternate reality and pointless.

So, if you were going to kill logan, how would you do it?

he can be killed, right?

Space might kill him, considering the freezing temps and the lack of air, but dropping him in the ocean won't do it. Sabertooth once ripped his throat out, and threw him in the river, he was under for hours, but he woke up on the riverbed, just fine.

*repeat*

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
*repeat*

😂

i'm only interested in hearing what BH has to say... 😛

The smart ones have already established that those can kill him for sure Stilt, although if someone erased him from existence, wouldn't it drastically alter the space-time continuum?