Originally posted by Sentry
Their are guys saying even with cerebro Xaviers telepathy isn't on par with Martian Manhunters
Then they're wrong.
Xavier does have Onslaught-like potential. And Cerebro kicks some a$$...Manhunter might be able to fend off Xavier in Cerebro, but protecting anyone else would be amazingly tough.
-DM
Originally posted by Draco69
Believe it or not, Martian Manhunter is a stronger and more adept telepath than Charles Xavier. MM is capable of mind-reading, astral projection, psi-bolts, and mindwiping just like Charles Xavier is. However, there are a few things in favor of our favorite Gumby.When Charles Xavier first discovered his mutant powers, he endeavored to train himself in the use of his powers. MM on the other hand is quite different. The Martian society that MM grew up has thousands of years of culture and advancement. The Martians were all telepathic and developed new and different techniques as years passed on. MM absorbed all of these techniques instantly via telepathy. MM's brain virtually houses thousands of years of telepathic techniques, battle strategies, and training. Charles Xavier was self-taught. MM is capable of connecting with every sentinent person on Earth. Charles is incapable of this action without the aid of Cerebra. MM once mindwiped 70 different people around the globe simultaneously, including Lex Luthor. Charles Xavier exhausted himself mindwiping ONE (i.e. Magneto). MM has literally everyone of his peoples', from the beginning of his race to the end, telepathic prowess, experience, and techniques. Charles Xavier only has his experiences. MM takes this one without a doubt.
Originally posted by Draco69
To supessucks:A very valid argument. Charles CANNOT contact aliens light-years away. He can only contact his off and on soulmate the Shi'ar Queen Lilandra. Martian Manhunter is capable of mental manipulation, even more so than Charles Xavier. He has more than two-thousand years of telepathic experience. Charles Xavier only has his own limited experience. Everything Charles can do, MM can do better. The Shadow King is one very powerful opponent that Charles barely defeated (at the cost of his legs no less). MM once battle 400 White Martians in psychic combat and won. Charles Xavier was a self-taught telepath. MM was a war general that studied and mastered over two-thousand years of Martian telepathic techniques, skills, and principles. In essence, Charles Xavier has barely scratched the surface. It's like comparing a elementary school math student to a Harvard-educated mathmatician. Its no comparsion. The things that Charles has mastered as an adult, MM had mastered as a child. All Martians are naturally telepathic. Telepathy is their way of life. They've created hundreds of styles, techniques and skills for thousands of years. MM mastered them all. MM takes this one.
Originally posted by manjaro
mm all the way. i cant imagine what i could add that draco hasnt said but remeber that MM has mindwiped 70 equally powerful pychics, and made them believe they were ordinary beings plus manipulated world leaders in the middle east all the way from his home in colorado.shadow king is one guy who charles took 4ever to beat, he needed help with phoenix, he could barely contain proteus even though he was assissted by psylocke. lastly when sebastian shaw was trying to unleash phoenix to suit his needs, and the entity took over and was about to kill shaw he boke out his patented lame ass "if you kill, you'll be no better than him" speech. he was trying to shut down her emotions talking bout, "no jean i wont let you kill him, i wont let you be a murderer" or something like that and the phonenix who now took over jean gave him a quick lash and shut him the f*ck up.
Originally posted by Kento
MM is one of the most powerful psychics in DC or Marvel. Charles doesn't have no chance with it
doesn't it get annoying for people to put these ultra-mega teams to defeat the jla. supes, and flash will take mostly everyone there before a drop of a dime and WW can take out gladiator, and yes the MM is one of the most powerful telepaths in either universe. Charles is almost as overrated as wolverine. no wonder i stopped reading marvel.
Originally posted by supermanprime
doesn't it get annoying for people to put these ultra-mega teams to defeat the jla. supes, and flash will take mostly everyone there before a drop of a dime and WW can take out gladiator, and yes the MM is one of the most powerful telepaths in either universe. Charles is almost as overrated as wolverine. no wonder i stopped reading marvel.
I pretty much agree with everything you say, but give the ultimate universe a go. It Marvell done well and Supreme Power is a Marvel take on the JLA done for adults and it is brilliant.
For those who do not understand the Squadron are cheap JLA clones but JMS's writing is the best around. 😉