For the last 2 thousand years people have been waiting for this "Big event" to happen, but I guess I'll just have to wait and see...I no longer think it will. That is unless people push it to that...OR Maybe the governments will pray on the fears and use it as a control advantage..Like a big hologram in the sky of Jesus Coming.
Originally posted by debbiejo
For the last 2 thousand years people have been waiting for this "Big event" to happen, but I guess I'll just have to wait and see...I no longer think it will. That is unless people push it to that...OR Maybe the governments will pray on the fears and use it as a control advantage..Like a big hologram in the sky of Jesus Coming.
But then that would have people converting to Christianity out of fear, and when the gig is up, more people would probably leave...and only 144,000 would remain. And then when the real even occurs, no one will convet because they think it's the govenrment's work. And to prove that they are sticking to what they believe in they all brand themselves with the number 666 and all and then that's it. The big monster with lost of heads is the government with lots of parties/departments. If you ask me that is a really cool scenario.
For the last 2 thousand years people have been waiting for this "Big event" to happen, but I guess I'll just have to wait and see..
Another fish head in the dustbin
Another loser in the queue for the soup kitchen
Another reason for a visit
We think you'd better come down
Another n***** on the woodpile
Another honky on the dole
Another trip from off the 15th floor
The greatest story ever told
Was so wrong, so wrong
'Cos you promised milk and honey
With an everlasting life
And we listened with our ears closed
And a blindness in our eyes
But we heard them as they nailed you
And we saw you crucified
The second coming of the Holy Ghost
We need a pocketful of miracles
Two thousand years and he ain't shown yet
We kept his seat warm and the table set
The second sitting for the Last Supper
Another Guru in the money
Another mantra in the mail
An easy way from rags to riches
God's little acre's up for sale
The time is right for ressurection
We think you'd better come down
The church don't ring with hallelujahs
You haven't been for so long
So long, so long
Two thousand years and he ain't shown yet
We kept his seat warm and the table set
The second sitting for the Last Supper - 10cc`s The Second Sitting For The Last Supper
Wheres that from?huh? it do say so
King Burger
The book of Revelation reveals events that birth and unfold in chronological order during the "Great Tribulation" period.
We learn from scripture, that the "Great Tribulation" period will commence once the Anti-Christ establishes a covenant with Israel. And from that time in history, the world and all it's inhabitants will reach closure in 7 years.
When the "Great Tribulation" period thwarts itself, the Seal, Trumpet and Bowl Judgements will take effect. Each of the 3 judgements contain a series of events that stimulate a domino effect on the world, and some in Heaven.
Analyzing scripture, we are able to make reasonable predictions (within the 7 year time frame of the "Great Tribulation" period) as to when certain events will occur. These predictions, will obviously be void of absolutes, but may fall weeks or months short, before or after the actual event. In other words, pretty close.
Nonetheless, we definitely know, that at the end of the 7 year "Great Tribulation" period, comes the glorious appearing of Jesus Christ, to devastate and end evil for eternity.
You'd be amazed at the insights Holy Bible experts are able to postulate, but they are not perfect as previously mentioned. And there is no harm in dissecting, and making attempts to figure out the "Great Tribulation" period.
It's all fun natured. And some people tend to go over board yes, but not everyone. Be careful not to stereotype people, it's not fair.
Still, in my humble opinion, why waist time pondering such things? Christians won't be around to see or experience it. They will be Raptured before the Anti-Christ even establishes the covenant with Israel!
In closing, the Apocalypse takes place during the Seal Judgements, which cover the first 21 months of the "Great Tribulation" period. The great question is: When will the Rapture occur? That question my friend is NOT open to interpretation. Nobody knows, and nobody will know.
All that we can understand about the Rapture is that it will take place prior to the "Great Tribulation" period. Unlike the events under Seal, Trumpet and Bowl Judgements, we are not at liberty to make assessments as to when the Rapture will occur specifically, because the Holy Bible simply doesn't contain any insight on the matter.
The point is, find salvation in Jesus Christ and make attempts to live by His example the best as humanly possible. Christianity is a way of life, not a social club.
God is well aware of the human condition. He knows that we are NOT perfect. Regardless, our imperfection is not a license to live without consequence. God's laws are no different then man's law. They are constructed and implemented to bring order in the world, and breaking them has penalties.
Jesus Christ will come like a thief in the night. Persons taking Christianity seriously, should seek measures to be ready, and act upon them.
"No one knows about the day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man (Jesus Christ). For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away. This is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man." Matthew 24:36-39 NIV
debbiejo
Thank you. You are correct about the pri, mid, and post tribulation period theories referencing the Rapture of the church. The most dominant of all, is the pri-tribulation theory. And, being pressed for time and space, decided to present the most common belief. Perhaps, I should have mentioned that fact in light of your respones? Please continue....
Considering I've only had 1 1/2 sleep and haven't had my coffee yet..frusty I'm not sure how coherent I can be...But there are just too many views by too many denominations. There is even the A-Millennial view that we that Christ won't be coming until WE bring the earth into His peace...Then you have to look at the different views of who or what system the Antichrist is and then WHAT is the mark of the beast. Some say it is a literal mark, some say it's a cashless society, some say the mark is keeping Sunday instead of the true Sabbath, Saturday, some say it's not keeping Gods Holy Days. The Jews feel they are Gods chosen people, the Christians feel they are Gods chosen people, and the Muslims say they are.
I have to say I've given up on it...Besides, God isn't going to pick one group of His creation of the rest...God loves all His creation and will not condemn any.
Originally posted by debbiejo
Thank You...It's the world I live in...... 😄Got a question....If Jesus said that heaven is not here or there, and that it is within you, how could he come and take us up to a physical place..He said it wasn't a physical place.
Jesus never said that heaven is within us. Where did you read that. He did say that the Kingdom of God is within us meaning that as Christians (people who believe Jesus to be the Savior) we become part of the Kingdom and it becomes part of us. When you accept Jesus into your life and are baptised you symbolically die and are reborn into the Kingdom of God. Heaven is a actual place where God sits on a throne with Jesus at his right hand just as John saw it and wrote about it in the book of Revelation. Stephan, the first martyr (you can read about him in the gospels) also had this vision and for speaking of it he was stoned to death. Jesus himself said to the man hanging next to him on the cross "today you will be with me in paradise" . Heaven has been described as a paradise.
Originally posted by sonnet
Jesus never said that heaven is within us. Where did you read that. He did say that the Kingdom of God is within us meaning that as Christians (people who believe Jesus to be the Savior) we become part of the Kingdom and it becomes part of us. When you accept Jesus into your life and are baptised you symbolically die and are reborn into the Kingdom of God. Heaven is a actual place where God sits on a throne with Jesus at his right hand just as John saw it and wrote about it in the book of Revelation. Stephan, the first martyr (you can read about him in the gospels) also had this vision and for speaking of it he was stoned to death. Jesus himself said to the man hanging next to him on the cross "today you will be with me in paradise" . Heaven has been described as a paradise.
nonoNo. No. No....If you would of read the entire thread, you would of seen that I did take the Kingdom of Heaven back and say it was the Kingdom of God. even though it seems that the Kingdom of God and the the Kingdom of Heaven seems to be interchangeable...