If we made all guns illegal, then we would truly only be preventing law abiding citizens from being able to purchase them. Criminals would simply find another way to get ahold of them, just without government tax. So now, the law abiding citizens have no way to protect themselves unless they become very good at throwing knives, and the federal government is no longer able to tax the weaponry that the criminals purchase. It doesn't solve anything. It only creates more problems.
Originally posted by Grate the VrayaYou can buy guns on the black market anywhere here.
If we made all guns illegal, then we would truly only be preventing law abiding citizens from being able to purchase them. Criminals would simply find another way to get ahold of them, just without government tax. So now, the law abiding citizens have no way to protect themselves unless they become very good at throwing knives, and the federal government is no longer able to tax the weaponry that the criminals purchase. It doesn't solve anything. It only creates more problems.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
26,957.
Actually, I think you're right. The only thing I could find was a vague rounded stat that said "30,000."
So more people die from knifing incidents than they do guns or am I mistaken about that?
Regardless, that's WAAAAAAAAY too many deaths. We need to have tons of knife control: if we take away most guns, the knifing incidents would skyrocket to fill the void (hai2u, Glasgow). But, is that even reasonable? Like someone pointed out, the US peeps seem to be more violent, in general, than other nations.
Not to make any excuses for people, but one of the reasons that people here commit crimes are because of the background checks. People that have any felonies and now misdemeanors are denied jobs. Also, they run your credit. They figure that if you don't pay your bills, then you aren't a responsible person, whether or not the whole state is filing bankruptcy. So, when the cream of the crop gets the only jobs, the others are left feeling hopeless and angry. There are also people here committing federal crimes instead of state crimes knowing that the federal prisons have better food, a place to sleep and you can spend some time outside. The county jails have mold on the food, are over crowded and you never get to go outside.
I've worked in the legal system and have talked to many people on both sides of the fence and it is so depressing to see it all.
When people have nothing and have nothing to lose and you mix that with anger and low self esteem you get a dangerous mix. Guns talk real well in those instances unfortunately.
Originally posted by dadudemonMy guess was a stab in the dark.
Actually, I think you're right. The only thing I could find was a vague rounded stat that said "30,000."So more people die from knifing incidents than they do guns or am I mistaken about that?
Regardless, that's WAAAAAAAAY too many deaths. We need to have tons of knife control: if we take away most guns, the knifing incidents would skyrocket to fill the void (hai2u, Glasgow). But, is that even reasonable? Like someone pointed out, the US peeps seem to be more violent, in general, than other nations.
Get it?
Originally posted by Deja~vu
Not to make any excuses for people, but one of the reasons that people here commit crimes are because of the background checks. People that have any felonies and now misdemeanors are denied jobs. Also, they run your credit. They figure that if you don't pay your bills, then you aren't a responsible person, whether or not the whole state is filing bankruptcy. So, when the cream of the crop gets the only jobs, the others are left feeling hopeless and angry. There are also people here committing federal crimes instead of state crimes knowing that the federal prisons have better food, a place to sleep and you can spend some time outside. The county jails have mold on the food, are over crowded and you never get to go outside.I've worked in the legal system and have talked to many people on both sides of the fence and it is so depressing to see it all.
When people have nothing and have nothing to lose and you mix that with anger and low self esteem you get a dangerous mix. Guns talk real well in those instances unfortunately.
People with really bad credit are denied because they are, supposedly, much more likely to commit a violent crime with a weapon.
I would like to see a study to back that up, though. Hearing about and knowing about it are two different things.
You need to spend some time in our court rooms to really see what's going on. I'm not going to do any research for you because it's all over the TV, Papers and all you have to do is talk to anyone in Michigan.
BTW, 3 of anything is a felony. 3 speeding tickets is one too...I guess that would make you a violent person.