Why Bryan Singer left X-Men 3?

Originally posted by mr.smiley
true.
but then again not everything can be perfect.
some movie changes i thought where for the better.
like rogues character.
I agree with Grant Morisson when he said they did rogue all wrong in the comics.
Their's no way someone with her mutant ability would be a southern loudmouth.
She would be darker than that.
while the movie didn't make her a dark charcter I think they made a realistic change that was nessacery.

ok, il agree with that...

Cyclops should have been more of a leader in the movies but at the same time it wasn't like the xmen had been on a hundred missions befor the first movie.

wasnt just that... he's a tall, imposing guy... he looks like a leader... in the movies he wasnt... and his personality was all wrong... they made him an idiot, the guy is one the best tacticians in marvel, he's incredibly intelligent in the field... and then they way overplayed the logan jean romance, it was bullshit, and reflected even worse on cyclops...

storm was decent but could have been a lot better

i didnt like her at all... i dont think they were anywhere near getting her right...

I think jean grey was a real good transistion from comic to movie.

apart from the logan thing i thought she was fine...

I also think they did good on wolverine but they just did too much with him.

true...

and in my opinion nightcrawler was probably the best from comic to movie.

he was pretty good i'll agree...

"wasnt just that... he's a tall, imposing guy... he looks like a leader... in the movies he wasnt... and his personality was all wrong... they made him an idiot, the guy is one the best tacticians in marvel, he's incredibly intelligent in the field... and then they way overplayed the logan jean romance, it was , and reflected even worse on cyclops..."

I agree with that.

Originally posted by mr.smiley
"wasnt just that... he's a tall, imposing guy... he looks like a leader... in the movies he wasnt... and his personality was all wrong... they made him an idiot, the guy is one the best tacticians in marvel, he's incredibly intelligent in the field... and then they way overplayed the logan jean romance, it was , and reflected even worse on cyclops..."

I agree with that.

so you see why the movies piss me off so much... btw whos your fave character?

It's hard to say.
I like them all realy.

I agree with you on cyclops being tall and imposing and all that.
I just thought They would have grown his character into it,instead of starting him off like that.

Originally posted by mr.smiley
I agree with you on cyclops being tall and imposing and all that.
I just thought They would have grown his character into it,instead of starting him off like that.

i just... did you watch the old animated series? that was cyclops... all they had to do was copy that and add a little depth... perfect cyclops... its not difficult...

i just felt he was a character for hugh jackman to pick on...

Characters done wrong:

Storm. Horribly.
Cyclops. Too immature.
Rogue. She's too timid.
Iceman. Too serious. Not a joker.
Magneto. Too pompous.
Sabretooth. Too stupid.

The only improvements were Pyro and Toad. The rest were horribly decharacterized. Which is why I am happy that Singer left. Good movies though.

I agree with you pr1983.
I just want to see the third film to see how they try to finish out some of the characters.

I'll explain why I like Singer's direct. First of all, the only characters that I really like are the two characters that created the ideologies of the X universe. If these movies were going to be believable as real world situations, then you couldn't have grown men running around in spandex with these earth shattering powers. I mean, if Magneto was as powerful as he is in the comic, then the movie would have been over before it started. That's why Singer took each mutant and boiled them down to their basic power. That's why Magneto can't fly, can't control peoples mind, and can't manipulate the natural iron in peoples blood and he can't create forcefields. He can control metal. End of story. Professor X can read and project thougts into people's minds. But he can't project himself into their minds, etc.

If this was going to be a movie with over the top powers and huge special effects and tights, then it should have stayed in the comic or been a cartoon movie. I agree that there are some characters that, personality wise, didn't match their comic counterpart. But, as I said before, I really only pay attention to Magneto and Professor X. And I think they were dead on. Oh, and Mystique was the shit...way better than he comic counterpart.

He got rid of the alien technology and based the x-man's advantage on the advance human mind, rather than outer space sci fi aspect. All of these things went in to making this a much more believable real world movie. Don't misunderstand. I didn't like the first one after I saw it. But on my second viewing, I fell in love with it. and I went to see it, probably half a dozen times in the theater. And I also don't want people to get the impression that I didn't love the comics. They were a big part of my life. But, the movies had to be different than the comics for them to work.

Just my two cents.

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
I'll explain why I like Singer's direct. First of all, the only characters that I really like are the two characters that created the ideologies of the X universe. If these movies were going to be believable as real world situations, then you couldn't have grown men running around in spandex with these earth shattering powers. I mean, if Magneto was as powerful as he is in the comic, then the movie would have been over before it started. That's why Singer took each mutant and boiled them down to their basic power. That's why Magneto can't fly, can't control peoples mind, and can't manipulate the natural iron in peoples blood and he can't create forcefields. He can control metal. End of story. Professor X can read and project thougts into people's minds. But he can't project himself into their minds, etc.

If this was going to be a movie with over the top powers and huge special effects and tights, then it should have stayed in the comic or been a cartoon movie. I agree that there are some characters that, personality wise, didn't match their comic counterpart. But, as I said before, I really only pay attention to Magneto and Professor X. And I think they were dead on. Oh, and Mystique was the shit...way better than he comic counterpart.

He got rid of the alien technology and based the x-man's advantage on the advance human mind, rather than outer space sci fi aspect. All of these things went in to making this a much more believable real world movie. Don't misunderstand. I didn't like the first one after I saw it. But on my second viewing, I fell in love with it. and I went to see it, probably half a dozen times in the theater. And I also don't want people to get the impression that I didn't love the comics. They were a big part of my life. But, the movies had to be different than the comics for them to work.

Just my two cents.

i'm not asking for spandex...

realism is good, but the x-men are superheroes, i dont think wanting a big action scene or two is asking too much...

Originally posted by pr1983
i'm not asking for spandex...

realism is good, but the x-men are superheroes, i dont think wanting a big action scene or two is asking too much...

i agree...there has to be at least 2 or 3 nice action sequences in the third film...

and the ending battle must be kick ass

i liked the statue of liberty battle and the fight with lady deathstrike

The best scenes were when Storm summoned a group of tornadoes to attack the fighter jets, Magneto's escape from his plastic prison, Pyro's attack on the cops, and of course Storm rising up the elevator shaft looking really pissed.

Originally posted by mr.smiley
i liked the statue of liberty battle and the fight with lady deathstrike

yes i liked them too.. esp with deathstrike but those were only with wolverine. i want the great battles to feature other characters than logan. i'm sick of him now

Originally posted by Draco69
The best scenes were when Storm summoned a group of tornadoes to attack the fighter jets, Magneto's escape from his plastic prison, Pyro's attack on the cops, and of course Storm rising up the elevator shaft looking really pissed.

magnetos escape is great. as was nightcrawler in the white house

they need more all out action. have the x-men get pissed off and finally kick some ass

yea i link both those storm parts but i hated when she said

do you know what happens to a toad when i gets struck be lightning?? same thing that happens to everything else.

i completley hate that and imo its one oif the worst lines in movie history

EVER.

I think it was because she delivered it wrong.

i think it wa still a stupid quote. maybe she should've said

storm- i am mother nature, let me show you what she thinks of you

toad-......

alright that is still stupid btut imo its better than what they had her originally saying

I think there needs to be teamwork fight scenes. I haven't seen any of those yet, and isn't that the point of X-Men....? They are a team, they aren't Wolverine versus everyone. There were minor parts where the X-Men woukd work together, but it was big or long - nothing that would qualify as a major battle scene. We need big battles! BIG ONES!!!!

Originally posted by countryfan2004
I think there needs to be teamwork fight scenes. I haven't seen any of those yet, and isn't that the point of X-Men....? They are a team, they aren't Wolverine versus everyone. There were minor parts where the X-Men woukd work together, but it was big or long - nothing that would qualify as a major battle scene. We need big battles! BIG ONES!!!!

i agree 100%, the xmen are a team, more than the sum of thier parts...

individually they're all quite weak, they need each other...