In Memoriam--Kurt Cobain--1967-1994

by the critics and the fans

you have any sources or anything like that for your argument?

the point i'm trying to make is...lets say i go and play quarterback in the nfl. my rookie season i'm terrible, i'm lucky to ever see the field, and when i do i just throw interceptions right and left. my second season, i have an amazing season and lead my team to the super bowl. in my third season, i have a pretty good year, but my team loses in the second round of the playoffs. in the following off-season, my leg falls off and i never play football again. does that one great season and one good season make me one of the best football players of all time?

music is a lot different than football. you only need one album that is great to be considered great.

And you said that their FIRST album sucked; it means that they become better so I think that Kurt deserves to be a legend; but I also agree that he got a lot of fans because of his death but that doesn't make him any worse; to me he will always be a legend.

WHAT THJERE FIRST ALBUM KICKED ASS

i did'nt like Bleach all that much

Nirvana is the BEST F-ING BAND EVER!!!! My name is after my favorite song in the whole wide world: POLLY! Best song!

Yeahž; polly is cool; I'm listening it right now

I like Pennyroyal Tea and The Man who Sold the World also Dumb. and heart-Shaped Box, hell i like em all!! except Sliver.. i don't like Sliver at all

Originally posted by ElectricBugaloo
you only need one album that is great to be considered great.

says who? who defines the line between good and great?

creed had one great album, does that make them great?

creed never had a great album. ever.

Originally posted by Be@st
And you said that their FIRST album sucked; it means that they become better so I think that Kurt deserves to be a legend

i don't understand your reasoning. one third of their albums sucked, so that makes him a legend?

Originally posted by ElectricBugaloo
creed never had a great album. ever.

You may not like them, but four #1 singles off of one album is hard to argue with.

oh, i guess n sync had soem great albums

and the sex pistols never had a great album (they only had one album, i know)

or the ramones

the clash only had 1 #1 hit.

Rage against the machine never did.

the #1 argument is dumb. just because you have a popular song doens't make it good.

Originally posted by ElectricBugaloo
music is a lot different than football. you only need one album that is great to be considered great.

yeah but that really shouldnt be the case. Plenty of bands have made a great cd, then gone and made a load of shit. A band shouldn't be judged solely on their best material, especially if they've written a higher percentage of shit. A band should only be considered truly great in my opinion if they've made at least 3 great albums, and haven't slipped up and made anything truly bad.

thats why bands like Nirvana (only one great album, others were average) arent great, while other, lesser known bands like In Flames (4 great albums) are undeniably great. but it really all comes down to how harshly you judge music i suppose.

Nirvana had 2 great albums. Nevermind was earth shaking (for everyone outside of Seattle), and In Utero was at the same level, and many will argue better. However, you aren't accounting for the social relevance. No one can deny the social importance of Nevermind.

ive never really brought myself to love Nevermind like evrybody else, and social relevance shouldnt count anyway, because if it did we be worshipping pop idols like Christina Aguilera and N*Sync who consistently sell millions of albums world wide and infect the younger generations. but still you are very right, Nevermind was arguably the most important record of the decade, but musically, it wasnt all that. Lithium, Come As You Are and Drain You are masterpieces, but apart from those there isnt a lot going on.

In Utero ive always thought of as their best. Its gripping from start to finish and once you hear it once its locked into your mind forever. Thats a true classic. Nevermind just wasnt subtle enough (with the exception of the afore mentioned songs).

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but i did like Bleach more than Nevermind ..

Bleach is their best album ever. I liked Nevermind, but In Utero was better, and Incesticide is great as well. What the hell are you talking about, Boxofdeath? While he wasn't a great guitarist, he was a good lyricist and he had a passion for his music that was genuine.

Originally posted by ElectricBugaloo
oh, i guess n sync had soem great albums

and the sex pistols never had a great album (they only had one album, i know)

or the ramones

the clash only had 1 #1 hit.

Rage against the machine never did.

the #1 argument is dumb. just because you have a popular song doens't make it good.

Aerosmith is, by definition, a "1-Hit Wonder" do they suck? No, it's just that they have only had one number 1 hit.

Nevermind the Bollocks is f*ckin' great. What the hell are you talking about? Most punk artists, and even some metal artists put that album in their top-5.