Originally posted by roughriderI do.
Both guys job too much. It's not right.
Anyone have scans of the fight they had in She-Hulk?
1. http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/7555/shehulk7106zi.jpg
2. http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/1205/shehulk7148bn.jpg
Originally posted by armandovalles
Gladiator, easily, Champ can fight better but thats his only advantage. One punch from Gladiator at beyond warp speed and Champ needs a new head.
I don't get you guys.
Where the heck have you seen him do this stuff?
It NEVER, (and I will repeat this for you die-hards), NEVER happens like this!
I don't know, maybe it takes too much out of the super speedsters to do this stuff.
or
Maybe it is actually dangerous to them too. Like, moving that fast, against a very powerful, very sturdy enemy could end up in a super speedster breaking himself against his opponent.
or
Maybe, when moving at super speeds, the power of the blows is lessened.
Whatever the reason, you will never see Gladiator using superspeed, and beating Juggernaut with it, Champion with it, or any other class 100.
IMO.
Champion destroys Gladiator. Easily.
Originally posted by JWangSDC
It's become obviosu that you need to read a comic. You have no idea what's going on. There are tons of what if's. What if this what if that. This isn't DC, people don't do shit like that
I agree.
I have posted thread after thread, showing how it takes more than super speed to be able to do this is any type of logical, or realistic manner.
Originally posted by HorrificusI agree with what you're saying about Gladiator never doing a move like punching someone at warp speed. He's never done that, so there's no real reason to say he would. But you're making it sound like Gladiator's speed counts for nothing in a fight. Which is definately not true.
I don't get you guys.
Where the heck have you seen him do this stuff?
It NEVER, (and I will repeat this for you die-hards), NEVER happens like this!
I don't know, maybe it takes too much out of the super speedsters to do this stuff.
or
Maybe it is actually dangerous to them too. Like, moving that fast, against a very powerful, very sturdy enemy could end up in a super speedster breaking himself against his opponent.
or
Maybe, when moving at super speeds, the power of the blows is lessened.Whatever the reason, you will never see Gladiator using superspeed, and beating Juggernaut with it, Champion with it, or any other class 100.
IMO.
Examples...
Using his speed to defeat Thor...
1. http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/7519/vsglads1f5uc7fe.jpg
2. http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/6044/vsglads1g0ra5pe.jpg
3. http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/8950/vsglads1h9jt3gc.jpg
4. http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/299/vsglads1i9to6kv.jpg
Using Speed against Cannonball...
1. http://img465.imageshack.us/img465/8432/gladiatorvscannonball41tu.jpg
Against Nova...
1. http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/9482/nova055rp.jpg
2. http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/5894/nova068vw.jpg
And here Reed and Company are using to tech to move at amazing speeds. Gladiator's able to do so under his own power.
1. http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/9463/gladiatorf4speed9ei.jpg
2. http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/8585/hyperspeed35nr.jpg
I'm thinking this fight would go alot differently if Thor didn't have the tech enhancing his speed...
1. http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/6158/glads3a1ne7ut.jpg
2. http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/6201/glads3b1lp3er.jpg
3. http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/51/glads3c4ki8ce.jpg
4. http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/4678/glads3d0az7wq.jpg
5. http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/7103/glads3e1qu5zq.jpg
And finally, If someone like Northstar can hurt the Hulk because of of speed, a guy who can move just as fast but is also insanely strong is gonna do a hell of alot better.
1. http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/344/northstarspeedblitz8fz.jpg
2. http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/8279/gladiatorsuperspeed6ov.jpg
Gladiator doesn't use speed in fights to do crazy stuff like some people will say, but he does use it. Andagainst slower opponents like Juggernaut, Hulk etc. it should give him a great advantage (unless a writer ignores it, eg Hulk Annual '97).
Originally posted by Lucid Lui
I agree with what you're saying about Gladiator never doing a move like punching someone at warp speed. He's never done that, so there's no real reason to say he would. But you're making it sound like Gladiator's speed counts for nothing in a fight. Which is definately not true.
I know something you don't know. Gladiator isn't really that fast.
he has a lot of twin brothers, and theyall dress the same.
Before a big fight, they all hide someplace, and during the fight, they take turns jumping up and hitting the bad guy, then they hide again.
So, it looks like he is moving at hyper-speed.
Case closed.
Hehe.
Abilities: The Champion has mastered untold thousands of different martial arts and fighting styles culled from across the known Universe, and spends the majority of his time between championship matches practicing these arts. The only thing I see wrong with Champion is his leg are not porption to his upper body he needs Hulks legs lol
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Champion as originally written would crush Gladiator...Champion as the jobber supreme that Marvel has reduced him to loses...
This
The Champion was originally written to be Marvels equivalent to DC's Karate Kid, meaning he has mastered tons of fighting techniques and has lived thousands to millions of years with a main purpose of doing nothing but fighting. I'm not sure what happened down the timeline, but the writers started writing him like the Rhino for some reason.
There is no bigger jobber in comics then the Champion.
Originally posted by King Burger
I think after hundreds of thousands of fights, Champion
has learned to deal with such speedsters, assuming he
isn't one himself ofcourse.armandovalles, the Champion is an Elder who has
dedicated most of his loooooong existence to fighting,
he's not going to get beat by the likes of Gladiator.Shi'ar Imperial Guard or no Shi'ar Imperial Guard,
Gladoator has absolutely nothing on Champion.
He has nothing on him..besides that pesky massive speed advantage.
Originally posted by Horrificus
I don't get you guys.
Where the heck have you seen him do this stuff?
It NEVER, (and I will repeat this for you die-hards), NEVER happens like this!
I don't know, maybe it takes too much out of the super speedsters to do this stuff.
or
Maybe it is actually dangerous to them too. Like, moving that fast, against a very powerful, very sturdy enemy could end up in a super speedster breaking himself against his opponent.
or
Maybe, when moving at super speeds, the power of the blows is lessened.Whatever the reason, you will never see Gladiator using superspeed, and beating Juggernaut with it, Champion with it, or any other class 100.
IMO.Champion destroys Gladiator. Easily.
Uh dude you aren't dealing with some big mystery here. It's called PIS, it's necessary for comics. That is why characters with super speed don't always use it how they should. It's the reason why a guy who throws boomerangs can be a villain to someone like the Flash.
So now outside the confines of a comic book we don't have to worry about the plot and making the comic book not be over in three pages. Thus why you will see people saying characters with super speed will shockingly..use it to their advantage. As opposed to how it is in comics where everyone with super speed is stricken with a very specific form of amnesia that makes them forget they have that power.
