Questions and a Discussion for Non-Believers

Life origanated at one place in the universe when the universe was just created. Dont ask me how it got there but it did some how. After billions of yrs that life has been spread from planet to planet, galaxy to galaxy. Carried on comets, asteroids and wat not. Thats how life first started on earth via comet. The first single celled ameobas evolved into more complex cells and gradually to plants and fish and after billions of yrs evolution eventually created the "perfect" species... Us (this isnt fact, just theory).

But i look around the animal kingdom and think that no other creature on earth is as smart as humans (u must admit lol). How did we amount to this? Technology, medicine, populated areas. However u could say that other species have the same things, true.

I think our primitive ancestors just kept making the rite moves along the evolution chain. I also think that any species in the world is capable of having wat humans have. If the dinosaurs had not been wiped out raptors would probably have evolved to beings not much different from our selves. They hunted in groups and worked together, they could comunicate with each other, essentialy they were just like primitave man.

I don't think there are many articulate people here, so I'll give an exposition of an account by a non believer who works with BIG BANG hypotheses; she said that since it is now possible to recreate (in a reactor) the conditions immediately after the BIG BANG ... - Therefore there is no higher power. The believers in my class didn't find this well substantiated enough.

Is there not? What about the person/persons who helped create those conditions, they are the higher power in the simulation. They have not proved anything other than humans can simulate the first few seconds after the big bang. Unless im not quite understanding wat u said but to me its like the humans played God.

It would not have been possible to create those conditions with no help from anyone therefore the humans acted as the higher power, no?

Originally posted by shaber
she said that since it is now possible to recreate (in a reactor) the conditions immediately after the BIG BANG ... - Therefore there is no higher power.

That wouldn't have been difficult to do considering the earth was just a ball of fire with a whole bunch of CO2, so im not sure that totally cancels out a divine power, but if anyone has heard of pascals wager, you can't really lose out in the end believing in God

Not the early years of Earth, the first INSTANT after the BIG BANG, with fantastically high temperatures, before atomic structure and everything...

I have a question for the Non Believers Or Athiests or whatever. But what DO you believe in if you dont believe in God? How do you think the world and universe(s) came about if God isnt real? You think they just came about one day? Well everything happens for a reason and things cant happen by themselves so one day nothing decided to become something and turn into the earth, planets, stars, moon, universes, worlds, and on and on!???? I want to know.
I dont mean to make this into any big rave or fight or argument, I just want to have a calm discussion and clear my mind and I want you to tell me about your beliefs.

reasons for coming into existnace, creation, creator, things cant happen by themselves: these are all concepts and limitations of the human mind that i care nothing for, its funny that people say all this stuff concerning the universe but never actually think that, what was god's reason for coming into existnace, who was the createor of god? why does god exist? god couldnt just decide one day to MAKE himself, ? looking at this, the worlds around me, and scientific theories, i can say with 100% assurity that any god explained in any RELEGION, does not exist and never has, the so called divine relegions actually contradict themselves and ensure their own logical downfall by presenting the image of god, god is just a figment of imagination to me and has NO reason or evidence AT ALL, for existing, come to think of it when we say god EXISTS, we are forgetting that existnace should{by relegious belief} itself be something that god CREATED, but then again, thas not logical is it, n when relegions cant understand it any further or give any real explanations, they just say that it is beyond the ability of men to understand and we should give up on it, n never really think that "well, that didnt turn out the way it should in our relegion, is it actually possible that there might be sumthing wrong with what weve been taught as faith" but ofcourse even most logical people will never do that because it is indeed a very insecure world without the concept if a creater, protector and entity who will reanimate you after your dead and thus stop your conciounce from being destroyed. {hate to burst your bubble morbid but thas what ive come to realize, but nuthin against ur faith}

she said that since it is now possible to recreate (in a reactor) the conditions immediately after the BIG BANG

sumhow i find that REALLY hard to believe. advanced as we are, i dont think that we can really recreate that kind of temperatures inside a lab, i could be wrong though.

damn atheists 🙁 shame on u

✅ hehe

"damn atheists shame on u"

y did u say that?

The jewish kabbalaha tells about the big bang.Aand that was a long time before science had the idea.
The problem with science is it's ever changing.IN reality nothing can realy be scientificly factual.It's as much an art form as music.

Originally posted by mr.smiley

The problem with science is it's ever changing.IN reality nothing can realy be scientificly factual.It's as much an art form as music.

Thats more of a benefit of science rather then a problem, if you applied that analogy to the earth then we'd be in serious trouble. As for nothing being scientifically factual, thats quite true as only observations can be made, but then again name me something you know to be a fact?

I will die.

It is a benifet when something is improved.

We're starting all the discussion on Evolution and the Big Bang Theory in Biology. I believe in the Big Bang Theory but if it really happened I say God made it happen..But thats just me! ✅

Originally posted by mr.smiley
I will die.

Prove it!!! 😄

RELIGION SHOULD BE ABLISHED> IT CAUSES TO MUCH PAIN AND IT IS ALL A PSYCOLOGICAL MIND TRAP TO GIVE YOUR MIND FALSE HOPE THOSE OF YOU WHO BELIEVE KEEP ON BELIEVING. IT"S GOOD FOR YOU HEALTH!

you mean abolished?
It doesnt cause me any pain at all....Just strong beliefs and disbeliefs and such

I belive anything is possible.

I don't neccessarily believe in God... but I believe in the possibility of their being one. I think there's a name for people like me... I don't know what it is though...

I think religion is silly. People should believe whatever they want to believe and not have to assign themselves to a certain group.

I mean, I believe in many christian values... but I wouldn't call myself a christian.

I'm kind of torn between this subject. One part of my brain (the logical part) tells me that heaven and spirituality is silly and scientifically stupid... but another part (I guess, it's my heart, or my 'soul'😉 tells me that there has to be 'life' after death.

I dunno... Que sera sera - 'what will be, will be'. I belive that when you die you will go wherever you believe you will go.

I think that saying that is the only way to make everyone feel comfortable. And maybe that's all religion is... making people feel comfortable about death... and about life.

i just think that ppl fight over stupid crap.. dumb shit
i think religion was an early form of government (and eplaingin the unexplaind )

think about it all the rule and repenting for your sins

makes the world easier. but then ppl took it too seriuosly

it was the old science ppl need to move on and "upgrade"

There wasnt any such form of "government" back when all these religions were started right?