Who has greater power: God, the Father of Jesus or Mary, the mother of Jesus?

Started by debbiejo7 pages

Hope that someone will get some common sense?....Ohhhh

But it really doesn't matter..... there is no hell...No worry of a firey torment and all that.

Re: Who has greater power: God, the Father of Jesus or Mary, the mother of Jesus?

Originally posted by Jury
...Or they have the same power?

According to the book:

[b]TREATISE ON TRUE DEVOTION TO THE BLESSED VIRGIN
by St. Louis de Montfort

It proclaims:

7. The saints have said wonderful things of Mary, the holy City of God, and, as they themselves admit, they were never more eloquent and more pleased than when they spoke of her. And yet they maintain that the height of her merits rising up to the throne of the Godhead cannot be perceived; the breadth of her love which is wider than the earth cannot be measured; the greatness of the power which she wields over one who is God cannot be conceived; and the depths of her profound humility and all her virtues and graces cannot be sounded. What incomprehensible height! What indescribable breadth! What immeasurable greatness! What an impenetrable abyss!

Here, it says that Mary has a great power which WIELDS OVER the one who is God.

While here:

76. Moreover, if, as I have said, the Blessed Virgin is the Queen and Sovereign of heaven and earth, does she not then have as many subjects and slaves as there are creatures? "All things, including Mary herself, are subject to the power of God. All things, God included, are subject to the Virgin's power", so we are told by St. Anselm, St. Bernard, St. Bernardine and St. Bonaventure.

It says that Mary has power somewhat similar to God.

The power of the Savior and of the servant.... according to the Catholic Saint Louis de Montfort is quite of the same level. While, it inconsistently proclaim that Mary has great power which wields over the one who is God.

So, the POLL about this is created.

🙂 [/B]

Neither the saints nor Mary have any power. They are not deity or divine.

Originally posted by Jury
I'll just answer my question. Since Jesus founded the Church...

"And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the powers of death shall not prevail against it."
Matthew 16:18

* Jesus said this, but if we listen to what Jesus says, the One who really founded the Church is:

"For I have not spoken on my own authority; the Father who sent me has himself given me commandment what to say and what to speak."
John 12:49

* the One who gave Jesus the authority and the commandment to say and speak -> and it is the Father...

Originally posted by Jury
it is rightful to call this Church after His name.

* Jesus always wants to give the glory and honor to the Father, do you think Jesus wants the Church's name after His?

"O LORD, hear; O LORD, forgive; O LORD, give heed and act; delay not, for thy own sake, O my God, because thy city and thy people are called by thy name."
Daniel 9:19

* the Church should be called of God if it is of God...

"Paul, called by the will of God to be an apostle of Christ Jesus, and our brother Sos'thenes,
To the church of God which is at Corinth, to those sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints together with all those who in every place call on the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, both their Lord and ours:"
I Corinthians 1:1-2

* Saint Paul is called to the Church of God and NOT the "church of christ"...

Originally posted by Jury
Church of Christ... as how the Apostles call it.

* the Apostles call it "Church of God", as to more than 10 verses in the Bible... 😉