Ulic-Qel Droma vs Darth Bane

Originally posted by Lord Simus
Well theres nothing to suggest that they don't get stronger either. As for knowledge there is only one that I can think of that would have more knowledge than the ancient jedi and sith and that would be Yoda. I mean 850 years of experience has got to make him one of the greatest force users that ever lived.

I assumed Ajunta Pall kept his power. This evidence coming from KOTOR were if you piss his spirit off he gives you a warning not to aggravate him and that he still has his power.

Yeah, but was it enough to kill Revan or his companions? Uh, no. Did he level the room or Force lightning everyone? make them all freeze? He doesn't do jack shit, and if that was what he was like in life or better, he must have been the sorriest dark jedi ever.

I know that Pall sucks I mean he couldnt even weild his own sword without going crazy but he was still just as powerful as he was when he was alive.

I still don't see how a spirit, that you CAN walk through, could pick up a double bladed sword and fight. And your blade actually hurts it. Bad scripture on the writers behalf.

Funny, everybody voted Ulic Qel-Droma, almost a year later, I have a feeling everybody would vote Bane.

Is this a saber duel? Ulic's best best is a saber duel, making it a force fight would be too much for Ulic, so I'll treat this thread as if it is a saber duel.

Ulic is most probably the better pure swordsman, but Bane is bigger, physically stronger, faster (-not actually 100% sure about that, Ulic has shown great feats of speed too, but imo Bane's are greater) and his mastery and strength with the force is greater.

Plus, his orbalisk armour is a huge advantage, the orbalisks are completely resistant to physical damage, including lightsaber strikes, and they cover his entire body, with the exception of a few joints, but these joints are so small that a lightsaber wouldn't even be able to pierce through them, so his body is essentially immune to lightsaber strikes.

But that's not all that the armour does, it pumps adrenaline and strength into his body, making him physically stronger and faster, and meaning that he would virtually never tire.

He also later developed a lightsaber resistant mask, so he is basically completely invulnerable to pretty much every physical attack, and his only real weak spot is the back of his head.

Yeah, Bane definitely takes this.

Dont forget that each scale of orbalisk weighs 1kg according to the dark side source book, and that could slow him down a little bit

And here is a badass pic of bane, strangely he wields a purple saber

Dont forget that each scale of orbalisk weighs 1kg according to the dark side source book, and that could slow him down a little bit

Orbalisk Bane will be just like our friend Vader, Kadesh. He's slow, but he makes up for it with tremendous lightsaber skill and Force strength.

As for the fight. Ulic would probably defeat Bane in a lightsaber clash. Bane would win in a Force fight. Overall, Bane wins with a significant amount of difficulty from Qel Droma.

Bullshit, Bane would never be a slow ass piece of crap like Vader is, don't be silly. The orbalisks easily give him more speed than they take away, they pump adrenaline into his body which makes him much more energized, and the DSSB was referring to the original orbalisks when it said that, not the offspring orbalisk.

Ahhh....the anti-Vader fanboyism flaunted by our friend Planet once again.

I just find it insulting that you would compare Bane to Vader, when we can clearly see in BotS that the orbalisks hardly hinder Bane's ability in combat, he's still as ferocious as he was before.

It's battlearmor my friend, it does weight a fighter down a bit. However, Vader > Bane and to compare Bane to Vader is more of a boost than a downfall.

To compare Bane's orbalisks to Vader's fat ass suit is a joke, Bane's orbalisk in no way hinder his movements, and with all the extra weight that they give, they more than make up for it with the adrenaline, strength and dark side energies that are pumped into Bane. Kenobl, you haven't read BotS, so don't argue from ignorance.

And no, Bane is leagues above Vader, don't be daft.

That's wonderful, it is still battlearmor, and it will always hinder a Jedi, even if its a lot or less.

And there was a thread on Bane vs. Vader, and the Vader arguments proved he was greater than Bane.

That's wonderful, it is still battlearmor, and it will always hinder a Jedi, even if its a lot or less.

Wrong. It's not just simply battle armour, they're darkside creatures, and as I said before, with all the extra weight they add, they more than make up for with the adrenaline, strength and dark side energies that they pump in.

And there was a thread on Bane vs. Vader, and the Vader arguments proved he was greater than Bane.

You really are a fan or appeal to majority, aren't you? A bunch of whiny fanboys proves nothing, Bane is leagues above Vader with both a saber and the force.

Hold it there man, Each orbalisk scale weighs 1kg and he has his whole body covered with them

You really are a fan or appeal to majority

No, it's not Appeal to Popular Opinion if there was an actual logical argument proving Vader > Bane. I go for the logical argument that makes sense, not an anti-fanboy of Vader who claims he would have gotten defeated by TPM Kenobi.

Each orbalisk scale weighs 1kg and he has his whole body covered with them

Thank you Kadesh. Point proven again Planet.

Don't lie, I have the DSSB, and it is clearly referring to the original orbalisks, not the offspring orbalisks. Unless you want to argue that the fat ass orbalisks by Bane's chest weigh the same as the smaller ones lower down...