God vs. Science: The Inclusion of Creationism in School Textbooks?

Started by Alliance37 pages

*groans*

Why is this thread alive?

School textbooks are a place for facts. If they want to include Creationism into schools, then put it in the library fiction section with the other fairy tales.

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Originally posted by Fire
sure the theory of evolution ain't perfect but it makes more sense to me than Creationism

Exactly, people have different opinions. Both should be taught, I think, in order to allow students themselves to decide which they believe.

Originally posted by J-Beowulf
Exactly, people have different opinions. Both should be taught, I think, in order to allow students themselves to decide which they believe.

No, evolution is scientific fact. If you want to put creationism in school, then call it storytime and start it off with the words "Once upon a time..."

Originally posted by AngryManatee
The inclusion of creationism into textbooks is plausible... as long as it's in theology textbooks.

If the religious zealots want to have their theory taught, LOL then I demand that we also teach that the world was created by a fart from a 60 foot tall carrot named Skeebol. Cause it's pretty much the same thing.

Originally posted by J-Beowulf
Exactly, people have different opinions. Both should be taught, I think, in order to allow students themselves to decide which they believe.

Yeah...because 8th graders have the intellects of ages of scientists and an really examine the indepth nuances of sciences that even scientists can't learn in their lifetimes. Maybe your ignorance is explained by the fact that you think you have an understanding of evolution after being "educated" on the subject at a 9th grade level.

School is not about believing. You don't ahve a choice to believe in teh holocaust, or to not believe in gravity. Evolution is no difference.

"Belief" is somethign for hummanities classes.

Besides, in your ignorance you left out millions of other theories on "life"...this is not a dichotomous situation. There is only ONE scientific model, and that is evolution by natural selection.

Both God and Science should be taught in school. We learn about everything else. And. . .

The dollar bill has In God We Trust on it.
The Pledge Of Allegiance mentions one nation under God.
Loads of biblical events were taught in Social Studies class (at least in mine anyway).
Many of our laws come from the bible.

I'm not saying God should be taught because it's right and science is wrong. I think it should be taught because it's a very important part of this country. This country was founded on religion (supposedly), why not teach it.

Yeah, maybe they should also teach you how "God" actually relates to US history beyond your sickly account.

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If religion gets to put stuff into science classes, science gets to put stuff into sunday school classes 🙂

One problem with that, the government has no power to regulate religious teachings.

I know, it really doesn't address the problem so much as make a nice little glib remark.

I wonder why scientists don't get to set scientific curriculum though...

Becaused if you haven't noticed, scientists aren't exactly the best public interface in the US.

And, most of them are jerks.

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completely 🙂

I heard an interview with someone who was describing the way textbooks are produced and sold in America. It was really strange, and not very uplifting.

However, seeing as America is still the foremost leader in almost all scientific fields, it seems they are still doing well even with the anti-science attitudes. If they can keep it up is a different story entirely.

There have always been unsceintific attituedes in America. However, we are at more of a lowpoint.

However, I can assure you things are changing. A lot of scientists spend thier lives speaking to other scientists about science. Its a pretty tight niche and often makes public communication difficult. This is why mass-marketed crap like ID can be so "successful," because the public hears it and gets tricked into believeing it.

Scientists are getting more public relations training...well...some of us are. Kind of like how med students are getting much more trainng in patient relationships.

US science is slipping drastically. NIS grants are at 1/4 of what they were pre-Bush. It used to be that about 25% of applications got funding. Its now down to about 10% and that pushes a lot of scientists out of academic research.

Originally posted by Alliance
There have always been unsceintific attituedes in America. However, we are at more of a lowpoint.

However, I can assure you things are changing. A lot of scientists spend thier lives speaking to other scientists about science. Its a pretty tight niche and often makes public communication difficult. This is why mass-marketed crap like ID can be so "successful," because the public hears it and gets tricked into believeing it.

Scientists are getting more public relations training...well...some of us are. Kind of like how med students are getting much more trainng in patient relationships.

US science is slipping drastically. NIS grants are at 1/4 of what they were pre-Bush. It used to be that about 25% of applications got funding. Its now down to about 10% and that pushes a lot of scientists out of academic research.

But why is this? Any ideas?

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