Who can survive a full supa nova blast by the Human Torch?

earlier i thought u were talking about the Odin-force blast thor used on Galactus...like it was some kind of defensive technique...but now i get what ur talking about, so we do agree

Originally posted by Wynndar
Thor Thing and Herc would all be dead...Thing in his spikey incarnation could probably survive though. Its just really hot so i dont see why Cyttorak's magic wouldnt protect Juggernaut...It would mess up Hulk, but he would survive and regenerate...Maestro was blasted to particles and still came back so underestimatye Hulk's healing ability...Gladiator survived an explosion that created a star and would have consumed Earth's solar system if it werent contained with Skrull tech...actually he wasnt even scratched just kinda shell shocked. But im seriously not sure about the Torch's flame...he's never fully unloaded on a humanoid opponent, not even Gladiator. The main reason is probably because he would destroy everything including his friends around him. Galactus called the Torch's power "deadlier than he ever imagined"...it was right after the torch saw Galactus kill the Surfer and the Thing...he told Sue to cover up in her force field and charged Galactus saying "IM GOING NOVA!"...but Galactus killed him right after he called his power deadly. It was also stated that the Torch unleashed enough enough Nova flame to incinerate...either a moon or a hemisphere...i think hemisphere...on Exitar the Celestial in FF#400...in another issue it said he unloaded enough Nova to destroy a moon but it ended up being a dream of Reed Richards'. In #264 Torch was help prisoner and a madman was forcing him to shoot his nova flame directly into the core of the Earth; from the surface of the Earth, Torch's flame blasted straight into the core of the planet to increase the size of the Earth.

So basically, the torch's flame is pretty powerful, but he never uses it to blow away guys like Thor.

Nova would do nothing, aboslutely nothing to Gladiator or Juggernaut.
If Sue could protect herslef with force-field, I don't see Gladiator being hurt at all which surived star explosion, so pitiful Johnny nova compared to star explosion, no.
And Galactus would also be completely unfazed.

Galactus called it deadly...I agree about Gladiator, i dont think it would stop him either...basically, my point was the the Torch's Nova flame is written really inconsistently. Blasting right into the center of the Earth? thats pretty impressive...it would definitely anihilate most the guys on that list...but not Gladiator, his durabilty is insane.

Originally posted by Wynndar
Galactus called it deadly

It is deadly, but not for Galactus, it' not even a little dangerous for Galactus.

eh...we will never know...he could have probably damaged Galactus physical body, just like Sue did a few panel later, she blast a hole all the way through his chest. Galactus is a force of nature/fundamental presence in the MU...he cant really be harmed from physical attacks.

did galactus end up killing sue in that isse as well?

yea...well kinda...Uatu actually pulled them all out at the last moment so it the individuals getting killed were the FF members of that dimension that were sposed to be there in the first place.

The Thing NEVER K.O.ed Thor, armandovalles sayed it but it's not true.
The Thing is overrated in this board.
Thor showed durability like that showed while he was in possess of the Odin Force when he survived to Cosmic Power blasts from guys like Surfer, Thanos or other Heralds, he survived from being blasted from the Destroyer, that killed him through physical force.